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the smoke

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fade to black with

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jimmy judge on the game changer network

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good evening payton black

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bespoke radio

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for

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how you doing

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today's tuesday november 27 2018

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331 days into the new year

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just 34 days left

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and as always

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we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california and i would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tethered to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kgra the planets

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i am your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing

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is it taco tuesday

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is it really

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it's kind of funny that that just got

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because we are we are going to do some

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south of the border cuisine tonight

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we are we are we're not doing tacos

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though something else

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something else how you doing let's get

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this show cracking tonight very special

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guest

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rn voot is here

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we're going to talk about his new book

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the spirit in the sky ancient

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cosmological gods

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and where in the world we find them that

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is the conversation tonight so get ready

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tomorrow night right here on this

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program scott walter

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bleepin walter

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is with us tomorrow night yep that's

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he got knights templar

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yeah sinclair

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the lost journals that's what we're

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going to do tomorrow night i cannot wait

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for that

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thursday another fader night with

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teresa inerras she's going to be here

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divine frequency on the airwaves

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followed by open lines all night long

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and there you go that's our week here

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now you know what to do onsteller.com

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the new social media platform bill for

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on stellar.com and go find me there

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all right will you be at barrett will

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you be at

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jeremy corbell's uh premiere monday that

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uh seeing if we can put that together we

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have to move around monday's show that

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is already booked and scheduled and done

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so i would love to go down and hang out

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cool event so i'll see what i can do uh

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about getting that set up it's funny

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that you just got posted uh it's a

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fox 5 news in las vegas uh because we

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were talking about that and getting that

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set up earlier today trying to pull it

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off so we'll see what we can do i would

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love to be there for that are you going

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to be there

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that's the question are you going to be

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5 news las vegas okay where am i at

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facebook youtube you know what to do

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it's all fade to black and all the links

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are over there jimmy church radio okay i

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any questions or comments tonight or any

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other night hashtag f2b on twitter that

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is the sandbox

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uh quickly filling up yeah i know i see

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the uh jimi hendrix i do

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i see the jimi hendrix right there you

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can also email throughout the show jimmy

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jimmychurchradio.com any questions or

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taco tuesday today's tuesday

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when you woke up

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what was the biggest company in the

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was it apple

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nope

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it was not was it amazon you say jimmy

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was it amazon no

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again no it was not

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microsoft

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that's right

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bill gates is back baby yeah microsoft

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microsoft today the biggest company in

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the world yep yep

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see and what's weird about that

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you know he doesn't have to deal with

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iphone sales right

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he doesn't have to worry about that

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stuff

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yeah microsoft biggest company in the

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world today

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so there you go see how long he hangs on

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to it if uh if if apple keeps struggling

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yeah maybe maybe apple will fall to

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number three

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check this out

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apple and this is one of those little

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known facts this is a little

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thing that i have

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i'm able to walk around you come up and

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you go hey jimmy what's up nothing man

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you know you got a fader fact for me i

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do

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i got one right now

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did you know

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and i just got the stuff all the time

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drives rita crazy by the way

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apple

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launched a clothing line

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was it successful

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you didn't know about it until right now

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so there you go but they launched

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clothes

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they did the whole thing too by the way

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all right where where what what even

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caused that to happen oh yeah yeah today

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microsoft number one company in the

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world don't forget you can come join us

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for the

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2019 conscious life expo right here in

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this year we are celebrating the 50th

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anniversary of chariots of the gods with

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eric von daniken and i'll be hosting the

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okay now they've got a huge list of

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speakers and presenters this year but

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year's 2019 conscious life expo all you

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we announced last week uh our new

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uh builders of our new night vision

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goggles and that is hoffman's optics

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now if you go to hoffman's optics.com

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they're right there the jimmy church

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right there at hoffman's optics go and

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check it out we'll get the links up in

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twitter for everybody to go and get

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vision goggles all right by hoffman's

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optics and their banner is right there

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all right i've been bagging on bitcoin

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for a week

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i'm gonna let them go for tonight

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they're still at 3 700 ducks

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had they dropped

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uh well do you guys think

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they'll be in the 2000s this week is

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that possible

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could it continue to just tank

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i had said and i i i still stand by this

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i had said last year and the year before

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and maybe even the year before that

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bitcoin

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needs to be like a dollar

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it'll be successful

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you're gonna still mine bitcoins right

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just make it a dollar just get that

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thing down to where it needs to be a

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dollar

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ten bucks

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thirty seven hundred dollars thirty five

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forty 42

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6 000 19 000 no that's not

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no no then it's an investment if you

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want it to be

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money

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right

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needs to be a dollar

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10 bucks max so we know how to do the

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math

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i mean if i'm gonna buy a new pair of

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sunglasses if i'm gonna buy

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this bottle

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of skull vodka

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and it's ten dollars right right it's

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ten bucks for this bottle of vodka well

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i need to know

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that it's

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one bitcoin

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that's all i need to know i don't need

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to know i don't need to figure out

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software and what what is it trading at

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and no i need to know what the value of

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my bitcoin that's all

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so let's see let's see what happens

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but i'm pretty smart

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and anybody out there that's going to

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i've got other stuff to talk about last

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year this guy and i'll get i'll i'll get

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to it last year this guy comes up

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because hey man uh

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uh i need to tell you about bitcoin let

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me you know and i was like hey you need

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to slow down

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no man it's going to be a hundred grand

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by the end of 2018.

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oh really yeah man and i'm a secret

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trader i know what's going on man it's

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going to be a hundred grand

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you know and if you need me to come on

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the show i'll tell everybody how to do

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it with

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really

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well okay mr hunter grand and you know

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who you are

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it's trading at 3 700 bucks today so who

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was right

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that's all i got to say on that where am

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i at i'm having a good time i'm in a

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good mood it's going to be a great show

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tonight uh let's get this show cracking

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i'm just going to jump ahead right

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bro now

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dead guy's birthday today and we have

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two

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jimmy hendrix and bruce lee

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hendricks was born 1942 died in 1970 at

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the age of 27. lee was born in 1940 died

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in 1973 at the age of 32 but both were

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masters at their trade

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and changed the world forever

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50 years later nearly

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right nearly 50 years later when you

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listen to jimmy or you watch some bruce

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you realize that they were both the

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absolute very best

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and they're up there listening right now

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happy birthday jimmy happy birthday

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bruce on this day in history otd

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aerosmith and 50 cent

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headline a 10 million dollar bar mitzvah

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in new york the rainbow room

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2 million bucks for 45 minutes on stage

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i'm not making this up also at the event

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paid for a walk through kenny g don

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henley stevie nicks and tom petty

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you can't make this stuff up

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seriously

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more on this in a couple of minutes

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there are more life forms

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living on you

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right now

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that's your fader fact all right tonight

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r and v joins us from the uk talk about

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his new book spirit in the sky tomorrow

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night researcher scott walter is right

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here thursday it's another fader night

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with teresa yanaris and divine frequency

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on the airwaves followed by open lines

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all night long all right let me hit this

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river moon coffee do you have river moon

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coffee

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if you don't you're missing out on this

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oh my goodness

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how does coffee get that good

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river moon coffee flies a private

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bush plane

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to these islands in the south pacific

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collect the beans from the top of a

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mountain fly it back into the united

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states and roast this

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coffee yeah this it doesn't come from

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some starbucks plantation new

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um

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my goodness

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are we witnessing

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the beginning of the end

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it's certainly possible

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before 2016 facebook could do no wrong

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everything was rosy

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addiction and face time on the social

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and the full take over the world seemed

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pretty close

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really really close it was there well

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this week saw a document dump from

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well let's just say this you can go to

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the guardian in the uk go to the

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guardians website and they're posting

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everything right there

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but with titles like

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how facebook guides moderators on

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terrorist content

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or hate speech and the

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anti-migrant post

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facebook rules

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or how about this

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how facebook handles holocaust denial

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that's a real document and what facebook

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says on sextortion and revenge porn

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these are some very troubled times for

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the tech giant

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and before we say that facebook is too

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big to fail or go away i have two words

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for

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you america online

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at one point america online

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owned the internet

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all of it

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and before you say hey wait a minute

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there was this and there was that you

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know what stop

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please just stop

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america online

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owned the internet

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i don't have to mention myspace that's

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just too easy or excite right

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mozilla

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netscape navigator

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nope

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aol was king of the world but back to

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facebook

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there is no doubt that their dominance

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is real

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there's no question about it but

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all of the great companies of the past

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and i mean all of them that ruled the

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world

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all of them

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have gone away

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and you need to think about that for a

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second

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it's not all tech it's not all internet

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no

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how about

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general electric

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friggin thomas edison man

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g e

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right

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it's nearly worthless today

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bell telephone

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alexander graham bell

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monopoly

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they owned it all

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broken up

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insignificant today

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even though i've got a

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a t

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iphone

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right

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but they're not they're not a major

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player

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general motors gm today announcing

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they're not building

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they've taken like six cars out of the

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fleet cadillacs

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the chevy malibu

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right general motors general motors gm

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dominated this planet man

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not so much anymore

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how about pan am

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how about

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france

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right

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rome

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next is the united states and i could go

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on it's just pointless to do that but

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but facebook

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unlike aol

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you know facebook is not the internet

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it is not it just uses the internet

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there's a big big difference here

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facebook could be broken up tomorrow

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into a bunch of smaller individual

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companies and life would just go on the

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internet ain't going away

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right mark zuckerberg does not realize

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that

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just like with aol yahoo excite myspace

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perhaps at one point napster i forget

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what the numbers are but at one point

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napster was like 20

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of all internet traffic

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they're gone

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broken up

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right

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but how do i know that we are close to

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hearing the four horsemen approach

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today

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i saw

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the video

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of kim and kanye

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boarding

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that's right i saw the video

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just

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for them

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well

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and their

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trainer now let's let's stop and think

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about what i just said

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you know you know that we are on the

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brink of total social collapse when

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things like this actually

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happen for real

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when you see something like this you

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have to take a look around

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and just say to yourself

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how did we get

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here

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kim and kanye

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got on a private

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747 by themselves

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there's nothing that i can say there's

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nothing there are no words for it so

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let's analyze this for a second

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a woman

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rich and famous for

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well i don't know why and a man who's

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also rich and famous for i guess music

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kinda

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or for being married to

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the woman i don't know

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i don't have the answer i i just don't i

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i don't it boggles the mind but the said

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woman

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shoots a video

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of them boarding a private 747 and

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bragging about it

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walking through it

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saying things like look at all of these

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bedrooms

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what

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why

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it's like it's it's the let them eat

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cake moment

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that's a bad mistake

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who are you posting the video to

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does the world really need to know

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that this is going on anywhere on the

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planet and i mean we all know it does

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and i get that the 747 was built for

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somebody and i get that too but do we

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need to see it do we need to see it in

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use for real no we don't

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and especially by kim and kanye by the

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how did we get here

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i i i guess that a gulf stream g5 just

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wasn't good enough

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and the rich the true the true rich

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don't post videos of themselves doing

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that right the sultan of brunei or

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whoever some emir in qatar whoever owns

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these jets are they posting videos of

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them

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on instagram for the world to see no

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i guess

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but think about this

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honestly

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that isn't the point the point is and

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what is important here first off is that

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kim and kanye are not rich

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they're not rich not by rich standards

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no not at all far from it

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the particular plane that kanye and kim

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on we're on was it's privately owned and

537
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i can only estimate as to the cost

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required to operate it

539
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but it's in the neighborhood of

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200 000

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per hour

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that's right and they got on the plane

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alone

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two hundred thousand per hour a five

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hour flight new york to l.a

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you do the math

547
00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:46,559
now

548
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:49,760
i was with the silicon valley tech dude

549
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a few years back

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really really really rich guy

551
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and he asked me he said you know jimmy

552
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who's at the top in hollywood i remember

553
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:02,080
uh telling rita about this entire

554
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:03,679
conversation who is at the top in

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hollywood and i threw him a few names

556
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right

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and and he's on his cell phone and and

558
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we were talking money and net worth and

559
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:13,760
and i was like what is this you know

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what's this guy's deal you know and he

561
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just looks down and shrugged his

562
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shoulders and i was like what

563
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and he said

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that and i'm talking about i was

565
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dropping hollywood names right

566
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big ones and he's like you know uh

567
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:33,600
uh this this is what tech executives

568
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make in a year

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in silicon valley this isn't real money

570
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:43,120
he said tech money is real money

571
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and then he says something that just

572
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floored me he said

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that they hire the hollywood crowd

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for entertainment

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00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:58,840
on that for a moment kim and

576
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,840
kanye anyway

577
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:03,840
he was looking for someone to do a walk

578
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through at his party you know

579
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:07,600
entertainment maybe do a little

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bartending in palo alto you know how

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much is will smith

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what

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oh man some stuff he just can't make

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this stuff up but what is important

585
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is that sometimes things just get too

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big people with that kind of power and

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money forget what got them there

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including mark zuckerberg

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the world will revolt let them eat cake

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right it always does

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and my advice

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to kim and kanye don't film it don't

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post it doesn't impress anybody and the

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real rich the people that have the real

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money because you don't

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you guys are hired entertainment at

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other rich people's party kind of money

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don't forget that

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they have no problems

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kanye showing up okay man cool walk

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through and listen over there can you

602
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can you mix some martinis for me and my

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friends

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that's how they look at you kanye don't

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don't ever forget that

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we don't need

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to see that you think

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that you have so much money that you can

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just waste it you know light it on fire

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burn it up in the streets

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right that you are just too big too

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important to have it all taken away

613
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and the same advice goes to mark

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zuckerberg

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it does

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today we're starting to realize

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that we've just let things go just a

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little bit too far

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and you know what we want it back

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and it's gonna happen to facebook i

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think we're right at the edge everything

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that put zuckerberg there he's forgotten

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about he's lost touch with reality

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the universe has a way

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of balancing things out

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it always does

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church

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and i am thankful for everything

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i've never forgotten what got us here

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it's you it's this community thank you

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for everything tonight r and vut is here

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the spirit in the sky ancient

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cosmological gods and where in the world

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what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

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all right welcome back painted black i'm

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here with jimmy church

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[Music]

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00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:00,320
just gonna let everybody know you just

741
00:33:04,450 --> 00:33:02,480
watched me post up on twitter we've got

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connection problems with the uk

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00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:06,640
[Music]

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00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:08,320
so i'm gonna open up the phone lines

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right now three two three eight two five

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five zero four five or three two three

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two seven five nine six nine five or

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eight one eight nine two one six nine

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00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:20,320
two nine i'm just open up the phone

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lines and

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until we get uh the uk all sussed out

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ice all right open lines three two three

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eight two five five zero four five or

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three two three two seven five nine six

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nine five or

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eight one eight nine two one six nine

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00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:38,799
two nine and i'll set the tone

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as i uh wait for uh the phone calls to

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come in

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00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:45,600
is uh oh man that didn't take uh

761
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:49,039
just out of the gate eric how you doing

762
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:51,120
i just the flying the lines are open

763
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,440
yeah yeah we got uh connection problems

764
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,200
going on with the uk so we're trying to

765
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:57,279
get that sussed out but open up the

766
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,799
phone lines and let's see let's talk

767
00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:00,159
pablo's on for a minute you feel like

768
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,240
talking about i'll talk some bobby i'll

769
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,399
talk some bobby lazar

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00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:06,480
absolutely did you get a chance to hear

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00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,480
any of the radio show on coast to coast

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00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:10,159
the other night no

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00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:13,520
no that was a sunday night

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00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:16,000
yeah i i recorded it so if you okay you

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don't follow me and you don't give it

776
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:18,720
you don't care about anything i do on

777
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:20,480
twitter but it's on my pinned tweet if

778
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:22,960
you want to hear it okay but

779
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:25,919
let's put that to the side

780
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:28,399
what is it that you want to talk about

781
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,280
well okay the the december 3rd monday

782
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:33,280
there's they got the show uh premier bob

783
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:35,040
lazar is going to be there in l.a so i'm

784
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:37,440
calling to ask permission

785
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:39,200
if if i can invite rita because i know

786
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:40,720
you've got a show to do that mike can

787
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:42,320
you handle it on your own can i can i

788
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:44,079
pick up rita and we can go watch i got

789
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:45,440
an extra ticket

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00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:47,200
really

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00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,599
yeah then we could call in after the

792
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:51,520
movie and report live

793
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,879
so if i'm at the premiere you're going

794
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,680
to show up with my wife

795
00:35:02,550 --> 00:34:59,119
oh you're going to be there

796
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:02,560
why wouldn't i be well it's monday night

797
00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:04,480
you got a show to do how are you gonna

798
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:05,920
what i didn't know that you're gonna be

799
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,000
there [\h__\h] this is new news should i

800
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:10,480
just breaking news should i cancel the

801
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:11,440
show

802
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:13,760
i'll cancel it

803
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:15,839
it's bob lazarus

804
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:18,560
it's bob lazar it's jeremy corbell it's

805
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,040
george knapp it's los angeles it's a

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00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,520
monday night

807
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:25,440
yeah it's gonna be a lot of fun i think

808
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,040
it's gonna be a blast i'm excited about

809
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:29,680
it well uh uh hopefully uh i'll bump

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00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:31,040
into you

811
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:32,160
you want to meet me so you are going to

812
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:33,680
be you're not pulling my leg right now

813
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,440
you're going to be there

814
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:37,599
you know these are surprises i got to

815
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:39,280
surprise people okay

816
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:40,880
so okay

817
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:42,480
but what what is it that you want to

818
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:45,839
talk about bob no i mean i don't know

819
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:47,440
you know i don't know where you are with

820
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,359
bob i'm 100

821
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:51,119
down with bob lazar's story and i know

822
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:54,320
the great stan friedman even to this day

823
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:56,160
there's certain aspects of his story

824
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,160
that he just will not let go which i can

825
00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:00,560
understand that and then i i just had an

826
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,680
itch yesterday so i i called up uh

827
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:05,280
because i asked him you know i wanted to

828
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:07,680
know what his take was on bob lazar

829
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:09,920
and uh he had respect for for what

830
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:11,760
stanton has said and he did bring up the

831
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:13,760
parts this is the part and i don't think

832
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:16,160
this discredits bob but the fact that

833
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:17,599
they i guess they can't find any

834
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:19,440
pictures of them in the yearbook i mean

835
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:20,800
i think in the movie they're going to

836
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,760
prove

837
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:23,359
that he worked there i think that that's

838
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:24,560
what we're going to find some new

839
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:26,079
information is going to come out or if

840
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,680
maybe not new to you

841
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:30,000
but new to the public in terms of the

842
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:32,160
depth of research that uh jeremy here

843
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:35,200
that corbell did to to verify

844
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:37,119
um but you know i don't know i it would

845
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,960
be kind of neat if stan we sent the

846
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:40,320
movie to stan

847
00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:41,760
and he watched it and then he watched

848
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,599
the two and a half hours of extra clips

849
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:45,040
they're gonna add in there and then and

850
00:36:47,829 --> 00:36:46,480
then he and then he says you know i

851
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:47,839
might have made a mistake on this one

852
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:48,880
that would just that would be kind of

853
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:51,040
cool i think well i think

854
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:53,040
okay but see

855
00:37:01,589 --> 00:36:58,560
i this is my take on bob and i have uh

856
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:01,599
i've analyzed and analyzed and gone over

857
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:03,040
it so much

858
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:06,240
all of his uh original videos and

859
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:07,760
everything that i could find over the

860
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:10,640
years i've watched them over and over

861
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:12,800
and over again every word

862
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,040
and i've got

863
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:17,040
i mean bob

864
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:18,160
bob

865
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:24,480
is the real deal and i could be so wrong

866
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:27,280
on all of this um but

867
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:30,000
there's just something about his

868
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:33,200
delivery and the way that he

869
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:34,320
he uh

870
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,400
delivers his information i've always

871
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:38,640
thought that bob was solid this is the

872
00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:42,000
crazy thing he chose

873
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:43,040
you know

874
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:46,160
he out of everybody in ufology

875
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:47,119
um

876
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:53,040
when when

877
00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:55,040
people like you know stanton friedman

878
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:56,800
are looking into your background and

879
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,040
coming down on you publicly

880
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:01,920
um that's that's tough that's tough

881
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:03,200
ridicule

882
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:06,720
um there are others out there uh who

883
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:09,440
have had criticism over the years but

884
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,640
not from you know significant you know

885
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:14,880
you know somebody like you know stanton

886
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:17,680
and and bob chose to walk away

887
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,119
he he left and and and did his thing and

888
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:24,000
when he chose to go that route

889
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:26,560
it's for him it wasn't about fame or

890
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:27,760
anything else

891
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,320
it was uh he just didn't want to deal

892
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:32,560
with it anymore when you have things

893
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:35,200
like you know mit or your credentials at

894
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:36,960
pierce college which is a community

895
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:38,560
college here in the valley when all of

896
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,480
that stuff comes into question

897
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:43,040
um that's that's that's hard that's a

898
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:45,040
hard thing to

899
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:49,200
uh have an excuse for or a story for but

900
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:51,520
he chose to walk away today the

901
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:55,599
community has uh uh stood by him

902
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:57,520
and that's that's a hard thing to do to

903
00:39:00,829 --> 00:38:59,599
stand that kind of test of time this is

904
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:00,839
now

905
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:04,240
2018 we're going into 2019

906
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:06,079
and this is the the crazy part about

907
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:08,880
we're talking about 30 years man

908
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:11,680
30 years and to turn around and have

909
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:14,320
this kind of support from the community

910
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:16,720
30 years later in the film coming out

911
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,720
and everybody standing up behind him

912
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:20,720
well you know he's stood the test of

913
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:22,960
time

914
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:25,760
and he sounds convinced and i trust his

915
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:27,440
scientific mind that

916
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:30,880
three numbers 115 the element 115 that

917
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,200
he talked about in the beginning that as

918
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:35,440
you know not so many years later did

919
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:36,880
they actually come out and say yeah

920
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:39,440
there's an element 115 isn't the you

921
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:40,160
know

922
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:41,680
but the point is is he believes that

923
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,520
that is the key that that propels these

924
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:45,280
craft and uh

925
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:47,440
and he said that whoever whoever can

926
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:50,079
back engineer or enter that technology

927
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:50,880
just

928
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,839
or at least perfect the 115 technology

929
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:55,200
he says straight out they could

930
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:57,760
literally control the world and so i

931
00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:59,119
thought about that i thought okay so

932
00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,400
it's a race it's

933
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:02,079
the russians the chinese the americans

934
00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:04,079
uh how can who can design this back

935
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:06,320
engineer these craft but but when he

936
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:08,560
said whoever has this technology can

937
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:10,720
control the world really if you think

938
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:13,359
about it it sounds nutty but

939
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:14,880
couldn't the aliens already be

940
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:16,880
controlling the world with this 115

941
00:40:22,829 --> 00:40:18,720
technology

942
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,839
well could be and uh the other day

943
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,640
um

944
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:26,720
the other day

945
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:29,200
i brought up a good point about element

946
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:33,200
115 which is hold on rita which is uh it

947
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,750
mined hmm

948
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:42,000
interesting

949
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:43,760
you you want me to get off the call now

950
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:45,359
no no no that's fine let's give you a

951
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:47,200
little a little buffer time there to get

952
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:48,640
your guests back i'm looking forward to

953
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:50,640
this guy i'm really uh i haven't heard

954
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:52,000
of him but i did a little research so

955
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:53,760
i'm i'm i'm really interested in what

956
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:55,839
he's going to tell us tonight

957
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,720
uh who rn voot

958
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:00,800
yeah is he still coming or yeah yeah

959
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,800
we're working on it where it's a it's a

960
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,720
it's just a connection issue eric what

961
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:06,560
are you talking we're talking about bob

962
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:09,599
lazar okay my bad my bad i thought

963
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:11,280
somebody looted off the call there was

964
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,560
something

965
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,160
you know get out of here the call we got

966
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:16,160
to get the guests on no i don't think

967
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,000
that's what she said but

968
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:20,560
uh what do you do do you think lazarus

969
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:22,960
stood the test of time

970
00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:24,319
yeah and

971
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,839
i don't know one of the things he said

972
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,839
you know he he said some things that i

973
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:29,599
don't think he said before but doesn't

974
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:32,000
mean that he did anyway he was talking

975
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:34,160
about a time when he was out at the s4

976
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,160
and they were these crap were in the sky

977
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,240
and he's observing the craft

978
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:40,400
and that when he stood directly under

979
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:41,520
the craft

980
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:44,800
supposed to be that because

981
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:45,760
somehow

982
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:47,359
these things are designed in such a way

983
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:48,720
that they could bend the light and then

984
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,160
you could literally you couldn't see it

985
00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:52,079
you could see through the craft but at

986
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:53,680
certain angles if you were off you know

987
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:55,599
200 yards and you're up on a platform

988
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:56,880
you could see it but if you were

989
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,119
directly under it you could not see it

990
00:42:01,829 --> 00:42:00,560
and i've never heard him say that before

991
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:01,839
i thought that was kind of interesting

992
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:03,680
that depending on the angle that you're

993
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:05,040
seeing and that's what he was saying why

994
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,200
some people might be looking at a craft

995
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:09,200
and seeing it and then somebody else

996
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:10,800
might not see it and he was trying to

997
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:13,599
explain that that might be the reason

998
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:15,920
yeah that could be that could be i you

999
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:18,880
know with with bob um

1000
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:23,030
we have to look at it so many different

1001
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:25,040
ways right when you look at

1002
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,800
his background on the los alamos

1003
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,560
connections there's all of that stuff

1004
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:31,040
there's his photo processing gig that

1005
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,520
you know he had you know the equipment

1006
00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:35,760
of course you have the little rocket car

1007
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:38,079
that he built there is uh

1008
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:40,319
um uh the

1009
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:43,119
the other aspects of his life that

1010
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:46,560
uh were a little bit strange how he came

1011
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:49,040
in contact with john lear which that's a

1012
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,000
whole nother you know thing in itself

1013
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:54,640
and then how he got hired over

1014
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:57,280
uh at groom lake and s4

1015
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,920
and how long was he actually there for

1016
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:02,160
you know that's you know was it was it

1017
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,200
just

1018
00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:05,760
a matter of hours you know spread over a

1019
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:07,839
couple of weeks i'm i've always been a

1020
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:10,079
little bit confused about all of that

1021
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,800
um and his exposure and how rapidly they

1022
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:14,240
took him through

1023
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:17,520
some pretty heavy stuff but the thing is

1024
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:21,280
none of this area 51 s4

1025
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,160
uh element 115 gravity waves drives uh

1026
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:27,839
his approach to all of

1027
00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:31,119
none of this would have been part of

1028
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:33,520
our community if it wasn't for bob

1029
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,520
and we need to just stop and and take a

1030
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:38,160
look at all of that with a very very

1031
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:40,560
honest approach that's that's my take

1032
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:43,200
with bob i i always thought that he was

1033
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:47,440
he was just very very very convincing

1034
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,760
did you know that uh when this all went

1035
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:52,079
down and he yeah you know the story he

1036
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:54,400
was he actually tried to call his his uh

1037
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:56,000
superiors trying to figure out why they

1038
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,760
weren't calling him anymore

1039
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,359
and then and then he was going to the

1040
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:01,040
gym with his buddy that lived around the

1041
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:03,119
corner from him and one night there at

1042
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:05,040
the gym and he comes out and all his car

1043
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,480
doors are open his trunks open his

1044
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:09,040
hood's open and nothing's missing and he

1045
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:10,240
just thought maybe they left the door

1046
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,680
open the kids were messing around coming

1047
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:13,680
back a couple days later the gym

1048
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:15,440
uh they make sure they lock the doors

1049
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,119
this time and he comes out like 30

1050
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,200
minutes later and the same thing

1051
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,200
right so now he's freaking out because

1052
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:22,800
this is just a few things that happened

1053
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,920
to him but there was a lot of other

1054
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:25,760
crazy things that were happening now so

1055
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:28,000
he literally went and bought an uzi

1056
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:29,440
i don't know if you know that yeah he

1057
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:31,359
had an uzi he was taken to the gym with

1058
00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:33,760
him and he left it on the seat

1059
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,599
and so one other i guess this was like

1060
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,960
the third time he went to the gym with

1061
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,040
the buddy he left his wallet and the uzi

1062
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:41,440
in the car and he came back out again

1063
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:43,280
all the doors were hood was open but the

1064
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:45,520
uzi was right there and and the wallet

1065
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,280
was there they never took it so he said

1066
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,960
that they were really trying to mess

1067
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:51,119
with his mind really hard and there's a

1068
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:52,560
lot of stories about that i think that

1069
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:53,440
are going to come out in the movie

1070
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,560
they're going to be really interesting

1071
00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:56,880
to hear well and he got shot at right

1072
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:00,880
they shut out his tires one night and

1073
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:02,160
it's uh

1074
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:05,599
i i think bob is fascinating so uh maybe

1075
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:09,119
i will see you there on monday eric

1076
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:12,000
okay cool so i got an extra ticket so uh

1077
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:13,839
i'm thinking brad if brad's listening uh

1078
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:16,000
brad lives there in l.a sure

1079
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:17,520
okay yeah you see the right kind of

1080
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:19,760
brain don't you think post it on twitter

1081
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,599
i'll talk to you okay buddy thanks eric

1082
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:23,359
all right take care

1083
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,720
monday night is the night here in los

1084
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:28,560
angeles hi you're live on fade to black

1085
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:31,119
who's calling

1086
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:34,319
hi hi who's this

1087
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:37,599
this is piro vasu first time caller hi

1088
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:39,920
how are you hey uh i'm gonna put you on

1089
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:41,760
hold stay right there for a second stay

1090
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:44,000
right there

1091
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:52,150
r.n are you there

1092
00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:54,640
hello sir good evening hey it's good

1093
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,069
i thought i had a face for radio

1094
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:04,319
well i you know um i just brought you in

1095
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,839
right away i should have done a proper

1096
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:07,680
inner introduction

1097
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,960
um so let me actually get out of uh let

1098
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:12,480
me get some of this out of the way

1099
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:13,520
really quick

1100
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,480
that uh first off your first book was uh

1101
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:19,280
the the devolution cycle de-evolution

1102
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:20,880
cycle i should say

1103
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:21,680
um

1104
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:24,400
and now your new book which is ancient

1105
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:27,200
cosmological gods and where in the world

1106
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:28,480
to find them

1107
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:29,520
um

1108
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:32,560
and you have a relationship that is uh

1109
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,480
uh been going back for a while with john

1110
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:36,640
anthony wes and of course graham hancock

1111
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:39,839
and and randall and laird brad clausen

1112
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:41,359
right all of them have been guests on

1113
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,079
the show many times and and now you've

1114
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:46,319
got the new book out so that's what

1115
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,160
we're going to talk about tonight are

1116
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:50,000
you ready to go

1117
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:52,319
yeah i'm hyped inside now this is the

1118
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:54,000
thing rn or should i just call you

1119
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:55,040
richard

1120
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:56,800
please please do okay

1121
00:47:01,910 --> 00:46:59,920
um is this is where i kind of want to

1122
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:01,920
start out because

1123
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:04,160
uh what i think is important and what

1124
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:07,040
you are are writing about here

1125
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:10,720
is that all of these concepts and ideas

1126
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:13,359
from graham and from jaws and and

1127
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:15,920
randall layered two as well

1128
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:18,480
these concepts are now

1129
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:19,599
really

1130
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:22,079
uh are firmly planted i think they have

1131
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:25,280
a really good footing it wasn't the case

1132
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:28,000
15 20 years ago but now as we move

1133
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,119
forward

1134
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:31,280
uh the things that they have been

1135
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:34,400
talking about for so long i think are

1136
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,400
are accepted now is that what brought

1137
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:38,400
you into this

1138
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:41,200
yeah most definitely most definitely um

1139
00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:46,000
i think the maybe 15 20 years ago um we

1140
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:48,560
didn't have the use of the internet that

1141
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:52,240
was banning everyone's minds that were

1142
00:47:58,460 --> 00:47:55,280
studying these um

1143
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:58,470
studying human history really um

1144
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,079
[Music]

1145
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:02,800
we kind of felt somewhat isolated

1146
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:04,960
other than going to the

1147
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:07,440
the bookshop the bookstore excuse me

1148
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:11,119
um and yeah grabbing some of these um

1149
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:13,440
amazing amazing works by the john

1150
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:15,359
anthony west and the hancocks of the

1151
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:16,319
world

1152
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:18,240
um

1153
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:20,160
yeah so other than that we were kind of

1154
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,240
kind of somewhat isolated but now the

1155
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:23,760
wonder of the internet's kind of brought

1156
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:26,960
this community together um

1157
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:29,280
and yeah i should say what a marvelous

1158
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:30,800
job you're doing yourself as well

1159
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:33,520
because it's um it's the research

1160
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:36,240
the the the aforementioned gentleman and

1161
00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:37,920
you've just stated

1162
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:40,079
that um

1163
00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:42,160
obviously i've done a lot of a lot a lot

1164
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:44,559
of reading um

1165
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:47,280
their materials but it's the podcasts

1166
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:49,280
and the radio shows

1167
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,400
um it's really starting to um create an

1168
00:48:56,540 --> 00:48:54,480
amazing platform for for these

1169
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:56,550
researchers and writers

1170
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:58,880
[Music]

1171
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:00,880
well richard let me let me jump in for a

1172
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:03,040
second before we head to a break

1173
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:06,319
what is it about ancient egypt and the

1174
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:10,079
great pyramid that society just can't

1175
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,760
let it go if we just accept it right

1176
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:15,200
when history is trying to the

1177
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,720
egyptologists of what they're trying to

1178
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:18,400
tell us about the great pyramid then

1179
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:20,480
it's no harm no foul we just move on it

1180
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:21,920
was built by

1181
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:24,800
khufu it's a it's a tomb and that's the

1182
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:26,240
end of the story

1183
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:29,280
but we won't accept it why is it that we

1184
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:32,240
just can't let it go

1185
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:38,470
it's um i don't even know if if you can

1186
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:41,200
answer that um within the context of

1187
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:43,760
even just even the the air time that

1188
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:45,280
we've got this evening i think that

1189
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:47,839
there's so much going on there it um it

1190
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:50,640
beggars belief and to consider the

1191
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:53,280
these things that are just built as

1192
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:56,720
tombs um for egotistical diagnostic

1193
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,160
pharaohs of a bygone age is um

1194
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:02,319
it's almost childish to be fair with the

1195
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,520
amount of um

1196
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:07,599
yeah the amount of profound

1197
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:09,359
um

1198
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,319
kind of bounds around a lot uh when

1199
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:16,160
we're talking about the the great

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00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:17,359
pyramid

1201
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:18,640
um

1202
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,119
but with regards to the

1203
00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:23,520
i guess the tools that were at hand and

1204
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:24,839
the cumbersome

1205
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:29,440
size and the precision of the blocks um

1206
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:30,720
and even what they were what they were

1207
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,079
cut out of and with the tools that were

1208
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:36,400
that we're told that there was a hand

1209
00:50:38,829 --> 00:50:38,079
back in the day

1210
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:38,839
i

1211
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laughable to to

1212
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:45,760
to accept the the mainline stories

1213
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:48,960
excuse me the the mainstream story

1214
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:51,760
um but that's all they were um built as

1215
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,000
tombs especially the great pyramid let

1216
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:55,920
me say khufu

1217
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:58,559
has built it for a resting place i mean

1218
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:00,000
if

1219
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:05,680
found with all his jewels and

1220
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:08,640
whatever he's being buried with um

1221
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:10,800
i think the last place on earth you're

1222
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:12,160
going to bury him is in the great

1223
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:14,880
pyramid i mean the location itself

1224
00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:18,240
is so significant it's unbelievable it's

1225
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:19,599
um

1226
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:27,040
well and there's one other uh and we'll

1227
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:28,960
be discussing this for the rest of the

1228
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,880
night uh tonight

1229
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:32,400
is for

1230
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:35,599
for me when we have the the logistical

1231
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:38,000
side of stuff which is you know the size

1232
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:40,319
of the pyramids how they were built

1233
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:43,119
the location that we can accept it's a

1234
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:44,720
physical thing

1235
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:47,520
okay so there there's that part

1236
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:50,160
but there's the other side of this which

1237
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:50,960
is

1238
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,400
the the

1239
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,800
before the dynastic period

1240
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:56,960
and and what established everything and

1241
00:52:02,150 --> 00:51:58,960
i'm talking about the ancient gods of

1242
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:02,160
egypt that which goes back thousands if

1243
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,800
not tens of thousands of years or

1244
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:06,559
further back

1245
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,440
it's very difficult to

1246
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:11,359
to do this research

1247
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:12,720
certainly

1248
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:16,880
uh the the egyptian culture knew about

1249
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:21,440
and and uh had these gods for themselves

1250
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:22,720
but

1251
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,559
the research and what what is really

1252
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:26,480
going on that's the most difficult thing

1253
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:28,240
to get to and for me it's the most

1254
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:31,040
fascinating part of the story

1255
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:33,599
certainly certainly um but i think we're

1256
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:36,000
still being somewhat spoon-fed um a

1257
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:38,000
cartoon book version of what's actually

1258
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:39,599
going on with all these animal-headed

1259
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:43,040
deities deities um

1260
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:46,160
the uh supposedly presiding over um

1261
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:49,920
ancient egyptian society um

1262
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:53,200
it's yeah it's it kind of beggars belief

1263
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:55,680
um to be fair that we're still

1264
00:52:58,829 --> 00:52:57,680
um sorry to repeat myself sort of spoon

1265
00:53:02,870 --> 00:52:58,839
feeding

1266
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:02,880
um grown adults a timeline that doesn't

1267
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:03,839
really

1268
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:08,079
not even listening to

1269
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:10,160
the egyptians own

1270
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:17,270
own story really um i mean there's

1271
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:20,400
there's no real um there is no evidence

1272
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:22,559
um that they actually built the pyramids

1273
00:53:27,630 --> 00:53:25,599
um themselves um

1274
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:27,640
kufu himself

1275
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:31,280
is is renowned for

1276
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:33,520
for actually stating that i mean i don't

1277
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:35,760
know how you stumble across the pyramid

1278
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:37,680
that kind of science but

1279
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:40,720
it was it was somewhat found

1280
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:41,599
and

1281
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:46,079
systematically restored um

1282
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,160
during the timeline of what egyptology

1283
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:50,160
is saying it was actually built

1284
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:51,280
um

1285
00:53:59,829 --> 00:53:57,040
i won't go over it too much because

1286
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,839
obviously you've had guests on here that

1287
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:01,920
they've quite quite evidently put it to

1288
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:04,559
rights um

1289
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,640
but there's yeah there's there's there's

1290
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:08,559
there's most definitely something that's

1291
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:16,309
right and how do you how do you start

1292
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:17,839
researching

1293
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:20,480
this subject because it seems

1294
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:23,760
nearly impossible

1295
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:26,319
sure sure um

1296
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:27,599
to be fair there was a number of

1297
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:31,440
precursors um that really got me to um

1298
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:33,200
to the hypothesis of the spirit in the

1299
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,800
sky

1300
00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:36,559
um

1301
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:37,599
and uh

1302
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:40,240
in all honesty to be fair it's

1303
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:41,839
i've done a number of presentations like

1304
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:44,400
this foreign i've prepared myself um

1305
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:47,359
every time for it um

1306
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,240
but all

1307
00:54:51,910 --> 00:54:50,319
best preparation kind of gets um thrown

1308
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:51,920
to the wind because obviously um

1309
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:55,359
conversations are never the same um

1310
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:58,559
so where yeah where where did i start

1311
00:55:04,710 --> 00:54:59,839
um

1312
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,720
i don't know what came first it was

1313
00:55:08,790 --> 00:55:06,400
either

1314
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,800
the the much missed um the late great

1315
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:11,040
john anthony west's um serpent in the

1316
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:13,680
sky right um

1317
00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:15,920
it was either that or graham hancock's

1318
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:18,319
fingerprint fingerprints of the gods

1319
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:20,559
and once once i'd finished digesting

1320
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:22,400
that literature probably three or four

1321
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:24,000
times each

1322
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:25,920
um

1323
00:55:30,790 --> 00:55:28,720
yeah i realized that something was some

1324
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:30,800
it was something yeah something's a miss

1325
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:33,359
you know um and it was

1326
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:36,000
it was patently obvious um and we're all

1327
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,520
trying to work out kind of what that is

1328
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:41,839
um and obviously um yeah you've got the

1329
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:43,200
robert shucks

1330
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:45,760
um the the scrantons of the world and

1331
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:49,040
the randall carlson the brad clausens um

1332
00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:51,760
yeah they're all doing uh an amazing job

1333
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:54,559
trying to bring this to light you know i

1334
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:57,599
think to a certain extent we're almost

1335
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,400
almost denying ourselves quite a

1336
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:02,640
glorious chapter in human history and

1337
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:06,160
human the human story because

1338
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:09,280
something something happened um 13 000

1339
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:10,799
years ago

1340
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,880
which which kind of brought everything

1341
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:14,880
to a grinding halt

1342
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:16,960
um and

1343
00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:19,119
yeah not a lot was left with the

1344
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,280
destruction and what happened at the end

1345
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:23,920
of the end of the last ice age

1346
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:25,280
and certain things obviously have

1347
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:27,119
survived

1348
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:28,720
the world over

1349
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:29,760
there's

1350
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:32,720
um

1351
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:34,559
namely

1352
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:39,040
places like um

1353
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:40,559
tijuanako

1354
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:44,160
te atiwakam pumapunko atlanti tambo

1355
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,280
all these

1356
00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:47,280
megalithic marvels that are scattered

1357
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:49,599
across the globe

1358
00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:52,720
that we we would have serious problems

1359
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,160
um trying to reproduce even today

1360
00:57:02,549 --> 00:56:58,960
yet we're still accrediting them to

1361
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:02,559
um to civilizations

1362
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:04,000
who

1363
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:11,440
um the beginnings or how these um how

1364
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:13,680
these megalithic structures got there in

1365
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:16,000
the first place they kind of

1366
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:20,160
inherited them per se um

1367
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,240
myself including yeah myself included

1368
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:24,160
we're trying to

1369
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:28,240
the dots as it were um

1370
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:29,760
and it's becoming a little bit easier

1371
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,040
now as i say with the birth of the

1372
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:33,599
internet it's um

1373
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:35,040
we're slowly

1374
00:57:38,829 --> 00:57:36,880
lifting the proverbial vowel on a

1375
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:38,839
history last

1376
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:42,400
yeah right and that's a good place to

1377
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:45,359
start let's take a break right here and

1378
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:47,599
uh we'll continue this conversation when

1379
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:48,880
we come back

1380
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:49,680
that

1381
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:51,599
it's one of the most fascinating aspects

1382
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:54,400
of all of uh egyptology and the history

1383
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:56,720
of the world and we'll pick up where we

1384
00:58:02,309 --> 00:57:59,040
left off i'm your host jimmy church

1385
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:02,319
tonight our n voot and his new book the

1386
00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:04,880
spirit in the sky ancient cosmological

1387
00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:07,920
gods and where in the world we can find

1388
00:58:14,020 --> 00:58:09,440
them i'll be right back after this short

1389
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:25,109
[Music]

1390
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,359
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1391
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:29,920
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1392
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:34,640
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1393
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:37,119
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all right welcome back fade to black

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i'm your host jimmy church our guest

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01:03:51,829 --> 01:03:49,440
tonight rn voot and we're talking about

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01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:51,839
his new book the spirit in the sky

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01:03:57,670 --> 01:03:54,799
ancient cosmological gods and where in

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01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:57,680
the world we find them

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01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:00,000
rn is hopeful that spirit in the sky may

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one day prove a catalyst in united outer

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space with inner space and of course

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01:04:09,910 --> 01:04:07,920
science with religion now rn

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01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:09,920
before the break we were talking about

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01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:13,440
that that strange number 12 000 bc 11

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01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:16,960
000 bc 12 000 bc end of the last ice age

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01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:19,200
and what is interesting here although

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01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:21,119
this this number

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01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:24,079
uh proves consistent all around the

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world and we've been looking more and

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01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:28,160
more towards that certainly in the last

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01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:30,720
10 to 15 years 20 years fingerprinted

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the gods of course but

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and and john anthony west and robert

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01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:37,039
shock's work on the great sphinx

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01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:40,480
now we have gobekli tepe right 10 000 bc

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01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:43,920
construction there 10 500 11 000

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bc but now

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within the last week

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nasa did a press release

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01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:55,039
on an asteroid impact in greenland

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that is uh has been hidden by the ice

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01:05:05,029 --> 01:05:03,920
but now apparently that's a 12 000

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01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:05,039
year

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impact crater

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that changes everything and it certainly

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01:05:14,069 --> 01:05:11,280
validates what all of these researchers

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01:05:16,710 --> 01:05:14,079
have been talking about but just imagine

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01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:16,720
if if john anthony west or graham

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01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:19,520
hancock or robert shock had this

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01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:23,599
information uh you know uh 10 years ago

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01:05:29,589 --> 01:05:25,520
certainly certainly they're describing

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01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:29,599
it as a 10 mile wide crater um

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01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:31,920
yeah as you say beneath the the ice cap

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01:05:35,910 --> 01:05:34,000
in greenland um but i think it's

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01:05:38,549 --> 01:05:35,920
probably better described as a

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01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:38,559
proverbial smoking gun yeah absolutely

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01:05:43,750 --> 01:05:41,599
yeah rn can i ask you to lean forward uh

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01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:43,760
closer to your microphone

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01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:45,280
sorry

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01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:47,680
here we go

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01:05:51,910 --> 01:05:49,680
yeah i think um the

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01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:54,630
the comet impact um certainly happened

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01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:56,400
there's there's no doubt about that now

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01:06:00,549 --> 01:05:58,400
um it's been something that's been

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01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:00,559
hypothesized for

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01:06:03,829 --> 01:06:02,720
for longer than longer than a century or

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01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:03,839
so

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01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:07,599
recall

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01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:09,280
the first time possible excuse me

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01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:10,960
hypothesized this

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01:06:14,670 --> 01:06:13,039
was a gentleman by the name of ignacius

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01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:14,680
donovan in

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01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:18,960
1893 or 1894 of his book ragnarok

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fire and ice

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01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:24,559
something that's been i guess cast cast

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01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:26,160
aside

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01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:27,760
and

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01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:28,880
again

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01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:33,119
labelled as hearsay labelled as

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01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:34,720
pseudoscience

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01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:37,760
but yeah we we we've we

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01:06:44,829 --> 01:06:40,559
we found the the smoking gun as it were

1572
01:06:50,950 --> 01:06:47,670
undoubtedly vin

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01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:50,960
yeah vindicates people like

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01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:53,839
graham hancock uh mr donnelly himself

1575
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:56,000
uh the the

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01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:57,760
large extensive body of work that

1577
01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:00,559
randall carlson has done on this subject

1578
01:07:05,589 --> 01:07:02,480
as well

1579
01:07:08,230 --> 01:07:05,599
and i think it also

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01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:08,240
i think it also validates plato

1581
01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:11,280
um with regards to his town of atlantis

1582
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:13,280
as well

1583
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:16,000
that seems to

1584
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:18,960
yeah some again something happened

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01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:20,880
um nine thousand

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01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:22,799
nine thousand six nine thousand seven

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01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:24,319
hundred bc

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01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:26,960
by the word of

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01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:28,880
plato himself that was handed down to

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01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:33,200
him uh from from so long i believe

1591
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:35,280
and these core samples that are matching

1592
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:37,200
up all over the world now

1593
01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:40,000
actually validate again this this this

1594
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:43,359
biblical flag myth i say biblical

1595
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:45,599
but it's it's a worldwide flood myth

1596
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,440
it's just not throughout christianity

1597
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:48,960
it's not just a proverbial noah's ark

1598
01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:51,359
story no matter where you go across the

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01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:53,359
globe there's

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01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:55,520
there's there's tales everywhere talking

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01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:58,319
about this this this epic flood

1602
01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:00,720
and quite rightly randall carlson points

1603
01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:02,160
out that

1604
01:08:10,230 --> 01:08:08,309
when this comic impact happened

1605
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:10,240
first hypothesized i believe over the

1606
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:11,520
north american

1607
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:13,520
ice cap that the laurentide ice sheet

1608
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:15,920
which was some two miles thick basically

1609
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:18,560
flash flash melted overnight um which

1610
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:21,440
caused the huge worldwide deluge and the

1611
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:23,359
the rising of the sea levels across the

1612
01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:25,920
globe by some 400 feet

1613
01:08:29,669 --> 01:08:27,600
and there's something that robert shot

1614
01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:29,679
quite rightly points out with regards to

1615
01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:31,679
easter island as well

1616
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:34,080
it's um

1617
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:36,560
it's a phenomenon the the island itself

1618
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:38,640
no one can quite really work out what's

1619
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:40,239
going on there

1620
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:41,839
there's as

1621
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:46,080
i'm sure you know there's some 900 um

1622
01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:48,000
my my

1623
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:50,080
carvings

1624
01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:52,159
scattered throughout the island and nine

1625
01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:54,880
excuse me 13 of those particular my

1626
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:57,279
carbines are actually carved out of

1627
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,719
basalt and there's no basalt quarries on

1628
01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:02,640
on easter island and it's something that

1629
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:04,640
robert shark has hypothesized that maybe

1630
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:06,560
these quarries

1631
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:09,679
are now lying some 400 feet or so

1632
01:09:14,309 --> 01:09:11,920
below current sea levels

1633
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:14,319
prior to the the cataclysm

1634
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:15,839
that obviously melted this low and tired

1635
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:16,960
ice sheet

1636
01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:19,520
which again in turn

1637
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:22,480
the the the sea levels rise overnight

1638
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:24,239
and there's uh

1639
01:09:27,990 --> 01:09:26,640
another interesting aspect to all of

1640
01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:28,000
this because when you talk to a

1641
01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:29,359
historian

1642
01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:32,000
they'll go okay well plato okay well he

1643
01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:33,440
talked about it well you know atlantis

1644
01:09:36,789 --> 01:09:35,359
is a myth or there's

1645
01:09:38,229 --> 01:09:36,799
this aspect

1646
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:38,239
but

1647
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:43,759
flood myth there's no

1648
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:45,040
atlantis

1649
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:48,480
uh stories with ancient egypt

1650
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:50,799
so why does everybody else talk about it

1651
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:52,880
except for them and that is clearly not

1652
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,800
the case because when we look at the ed

1653
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:56,719
food text

1654
01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:00,000
it it states that there was an island

1655
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:02,480
that that disappeared

1656
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:04,239
that that's where their knowledge came

1657
01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:07,600
from and there is a flood uh myth to

1658
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:09,920
their history as well

1659
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:13,440
as carved into the walls at edfu

1660
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:16,159
certainly certainly and uh i would say

1661
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:17,920
that it's not just that

1662
01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:20,560
not only atlantis that was lost i'd say

1663
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:22,480
that there was a global

1664
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:25,120
civilization that was lost as well

1665
01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:27,600
um and i think that we

1666
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:31,120
somewhat built this this new world

1667
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:34,560
um out of the ruins or upon the bones of

1668
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:36,400
what what came before

1669
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:38,159
and i think that that's painstakingly

1670
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:40,400
obvious now and i think to a certain

1671
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:42,640
extent to keep denying this

1672
01:10:46,630 --> 01:10:45,040
it's um it's it's i think again we're

1673
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:46,640
doing ourselves a

1674
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:54,310
yeah to human ingenuity if

1675
01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:59,199
if i'm being honest um i think that

1676
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:00,560
i think that

1677
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:04,640
to call ourselves at the apex of

1678
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:07,440
sophisticated and technological

1679
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:10,000
evolution in society today at the very

1680
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:11,920
apex i think is somewhat arrogant when

1681
01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:14,000
we can't really understand

1682
01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:15,840
how some of these megalithic marvels

1683
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:17,840
scattered across the globe have actually

1684
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,840
been constructed they are they're

1685
01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:21,840
modern-day masterpieces

1686
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:24,080
still and

1687
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:26,560
yeah we accredit them to

1688
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:29,760
i guess master primitive builders of a

1689
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:33,760
bygone era um who who don't really take

1690
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:35,600
the the credit for building them

1691
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:38,880
themselves yet we we still

1692
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:41,600
yeah we still like to

1693
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:43,520
i think it was well why do you think

1694
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:45,760
that is let me let me jump in there why

1695
01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:47,520
why do you think that is

1696
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:50,000
the the structures are there we can see

1697
01:11:53,270 --> 01:11:50,800
them

1698
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:53,280
but nobody wants to take credit for it

1699
01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:54,800
there isn't

1700
01:12:00,310 --> 01:11:58,480
it that is i i find that fascinating

1701
01:12:02,310 --> 01:12:00,320
i think if you have i think if you want

1702
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:02,320
to take credit for it you're you're

1703
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:04,640
stuck with the

1704
01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:08,159
the scenario of having to explain it

1705
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:11,840
um which is something that

1706
01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:14,400
it's yeah it's beyond it's beyond my

1707
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:17,679
rationale i've i have absolutely no idea

1708
01:12:22,149 --> 01:12:19,040
um

1709
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:22,159
although i've got a very good idea it

1710
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:24,960
what it should not be accredited to the

1711
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:27,280
mainstream timeline of what we're being

1712
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:29,360
told and i think again i think that's

1713
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:31,199
unfair to us to ourselves i think we're

1714
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:33,600
doing ourselves some kind of

1715
01:12:38,950 --> 01:12:36,880
um prehistoric injustice really

1716
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:38,960
is there a reason is there a reason to

1717
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:47,430
it says it's it's it's a reason the

1718
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:50,640
i wrote the book i guess i think to a

1719
01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:52,159
certain extent

1720
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:53,760
um i i'll

1721
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:55,840
somewhat talk about the back page of the

1722
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:57,280
book

1723
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:59,280
which i'll kind of digress to later in

1724
01:13:01,910 --> 01:13:00,719
our conversation

1725
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:01,920
but

1726
01:13:06,390 --> 01:13:04,080
i sincerely believe that the

1727
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:06,400
egyptological ideal is fundamentally

1728
01:13:10,229 --> 01:13:08,480
supporting a battle weary blueprint for

1729
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:10,239
all world religion

1730
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:11,360
um

1731
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:13,600
i think that

1732
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:14,400
if

1733
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:16,560
let's say the proverbial cat is let out

1734
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:20,719
of the bag i i think that a lot of world

1735
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:23,520
religion has to

1736
01:13:28,870 --> 01:13:26,320
fall somewhat by the wayside with it to

1737
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,880
a certain extent i'm not saying that

1738
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:30,480
i'm not saying that everyone don't get

1739
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:32,159
me wrong i'm not here to offend anybody

1740
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,360
in anyone's chosen belief system um

1741
01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:37,120
but that said

1742
01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:39,040
i'm not saying that everyone's wrong for

1743
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:40,400
what they believe i'm saying that

1744
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:42,640
they're fundamentally right but maybe

1745
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:45,360
they don't know why

1746
01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:48,960
if that makes sense it well if

1747
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:51,440
if it does make sense which which it

1748
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:53,040
does to me

1749
01:13:57,590 --> 01:13:55,440
we're talking about a major major uh

1750
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,600
shift here in consciousness

1751
01:14:02,310 --> 01:13:59,040
because

1752
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:02,320
if well let's let's stay right here

1753
01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:04,640
if what is revealed

1754
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:08,560
then uh takes away from or invalidates

1755
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:10,960
other world religions whether it's islam

1756
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:18,709
if that indeed collapses then we lose

1757
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:21,120
control of this planet and that would

1758
01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:22,560
seem to me

1759
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,480
to be a good reason not to let this out

1760
01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:28,560
i'm not sure it would cause um the

1761
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:30,239
proverbial collapse of the planet i

1762
01:14:37,510 --> 01:14:32,719
think to to a certain extent if we stop

1763
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:39,750
again i don't want to offend everyone

1764
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:42,320
but no that's all right look here let me

1765
01:14:46,149 --> 01:14:44,400
help you out if if

1766
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:46,159
if the

1767
01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:49,360
egyptian the ancient egyptian

1768
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:52,000
way of looking at things consciousness

1769
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,360
our brain our world what what gods

1770
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:57,600
really are of course with the stars and

1771
01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:00,719
everything if that is indeed the case

1772
01:15:04,870 --> 01:15:01,840
then

1773
01:15:07,430 --> 01:15:04,880
where does christianity fit into this or

1774
01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:07,440
is it completely wrong and if that comes

1775
01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:08,159
out

1776
01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:12,480
which directly affects islam right it's

1777
01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:15,360
completely wrong um far from it again

1778
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:17,520
it's um for the for the same reason i

1779
01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:18,400
say

1780
01:15:25,910 --> 01:15:19,280
it

1781
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:25,920
guess fundamentally

1782
01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:28,080
um

1783
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:29,679
the same i think every religion is

1784
01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:31,440
basically the same thing which all stems

1785
01:15:35,189 --> 01:15:33,120
from ancient egyptology i mean we can

1786
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:35,199
look at christianity for

1787
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:37,360
for argument's sake and the god of

1788
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:39,840
resurrection in question would be jesus

1789
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:42,960
and jesus christ and jesus christ from

1790
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:44,960
as far as my research goes and a number

1791
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:46,880
of others

1792
01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:48,320
i think we're

1793
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,400
in today's society we're basically

1794
01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:52,560
practicing the same religion that was

1795
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:54,719
practiced with regards to resurrected

1796
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,640
gods which was going on in ancient egypt

1797
01:16:00,229 --> 01:15:58,719
in a bible era lost to the historical

1798
01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:00,239
record

1799
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:02,800
i don't particularly think that there

1800
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:04,480
was

1801
01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:15,360
egyptian god of resurrection called

1802
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:16,880
osiris

1803
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:18,080
that was

1804
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:20,800
murdered by his brother and rescued by

1805
01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:22,000
his wife

1806
01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:22,719
and

1807
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:25,120
his sister from inside the great tamaris

1808
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:27,520
tree and thus became

1809
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:29,360
synonymous with a constellation in the

1810
01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:33,280
sky i think that there's an underlying

1811
01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:35,360
profound significance behind the

1812
01:16:38,470 --> 01:16:36,800
mythology

1813
01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:38,480
of all these resurrected gods and

1814
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:41,360
religions that that actually is trying

1815
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:44,239
to describe

1816
01:16:48,950 --> 01:16:46,320
more of what the human experience and

1817
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:48,960
consciousness is all about i don't

1818
01:16:54,630 --> 01:16:52,800
believe to certainly i mean there's

1819
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:54,640
no matter what religion

1820
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:58,400
cherry-pick i don't think that anyone's

1821
01:17:02,229 --> 01:17:00,560
quite really got it right i don't think

1822
01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:02,239
there's any evidence that anyone can

1823
01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:05,360
actually say that anyone's good

1824
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:06,560
well

1825
01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:07,760
so what

1826
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:10,000
okay but this is where it gets and i've

1827
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:12,640
always thought about this

1828
01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:14,880
uh richard which is when we're talking

1829
01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:15,679
about

1830
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:16,880
horus

1831
01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:20,000
and the resurrection and a virgin birth

1832
01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:22,719
on christmas day and and

1833
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:25,360
three stars in the sky the three king

1834
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,760
and and and suddenly

1835
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:30,000
christianity has to take a look at this

1836
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:31,440
and go wait a minute wait a minute i

1837
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:32,719
thought we were talking about you who

1838
01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:34,560
are we talking about here are we talking

1839
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:36,640
about jesus mary and joseph are we

1840
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:40,000
talking about isis and osiris

1841
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:41,760
and horus

1842
01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:44,960
and and and that resurrection which

1843
01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:48,080
happened you know 10 000 years before

1844
01:17:51,830 --> 01:17:49,760
the time of christ

1845
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:51,840
that certainly is going to upset a few

1846
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:54,800
people like half of the planet

1847
01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:57,360
certainly certainly um but i think that

1848
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:59,199
i think that these mythologies and these

1849
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:01,040
religions are actually that they're

1850
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:02,719
layered i'm not saying it's one thing or

1851
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:04,880
another obviously with

1852
01:18:11,110 --> 01:18:08,080
a lot of ancient egyptian mythology

1853
01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:11,120
um they believed in duality and i think

1854
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:13,360
that there's a lot of

1855
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:19,270
that goes hand in hand with this and if

1856
01:18:23,510 --> 01:18:21,440
i can i'd like to

1857
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:23,520
stick with the the christianity thing at

1858
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:25,199
the moment there's sure

1859
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:27,040
i'm not too sure if you're aware of the

1860
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:28,880
research by a gentleman by the name of

1861
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:31,520
bill donohue

1862
01:18:37,189 --> 01:18:33,840
but if i can instead of me completely

1863
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:37,199
butchering his work i'd like to read

1864
01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:39,360
or just quote mr donahue with regards to

1865
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:41,760
the celestial cycles of the sun

1866
01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:45,360
and i'm spelling sun s-u-n stroke s-o-m

1867
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:47,280
obviously we have the sun in the sky and

1868
01:18:51,669 --> 01:18:49,120
the sun of christ that's right that's

1869
01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:51,679
right bill donahue's work he actually he

1870
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:54,159
actually describes the the cosmos with

1871
01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:59,669
jesus's career he puts it

1872
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:01,520
throughout the bible he starts off by

1873
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:03,280
saying in september the ninth month of

1874
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:04,960
the calendar year virgo appears to

1875
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:06,320
correlate with the nine months of

1876
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:07,679
pregnancy

1877
01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:09,600
the sun by the trajectory of the earth

1878
01:19:13,510 --> 01:19:10,800
appears to be born out of the

1879
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:13,520
constellation of virgo the virgin

1880
01:19:17,830 --> 01:19:15,520
now on the 11th month the sun appears to

1881
01:19:19,750 --> 01:19:17,840
pass with a constellation

1882
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:19,760
excuse me the constellation of the crux

1883
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:22,400
or the cross thus the sun or the sun is

1884
01:19:25,750 --> 01:19:23,760
crucified

1885
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:25,760
in the winter solstice the sun is said

1886
01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:27,120
to sit in the tomb of the earth for

1887
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:28,719
three days and three nights and by

1888
01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:31,520
december 25th the sun is hence reborn

1889
01:19:36,229 --> 01:19:34,000
and begins to rise once again

1890
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:36,239
30 years after his birth jesus goes into

1891
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:38,400
the water of john the baptist and 30

1892
01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:40,560
days after the 25th of december the sun

1893
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:42,000
appears within the constellation of

1894
01:19:46,709 --> 01:19:44,480
queer of aquarius the water bearer

1895
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:46,719
as per the bible still jesus then leaves

1896
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:48,480
john and selects his disciples from the

1897
01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:50,480
fishermen and thus the sun moves into

1898
01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:52,719
the constellation of pisces

1899
01:19:57,030 --> 01:19:54,719
jesus is then held as the lamb of the

1900
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:57,040
lamb of god and takes away the sins of

1901
01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:58,800
the world just as the sun moves into the

1902
01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:00,880
sign of the lamb aries which takes away

1903
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:02,640
the cold of winter

1904
01:20:06,390 --> 01:20:04,560
our sun then sits at the right hand side

1905
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:06,400
of the father and in the northern

1906
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:08,080
hemisphere the sun moves to the right

1907
01:20:11,590 --> 01:20:10,159
hand side of the eastern sky and thus we

1908
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:11,600
had our summer

1909
01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:12,800
jesus then

1910
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:17,440
biblical career but as the lion of judah

1911
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:19,600
as the sun also continues its journey in

1912
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:21,760
august through the constellation of leo

1913
01:20:25,910 --> 01:20:23,440
the lion

1914
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:25,920
so we can see there the these biblic

1915
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:28,560
this biblical text is is either

1916
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:30,080
describing

1917
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:31,360
um

1918
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:33,520
yeah one profound man's

1919
01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:37,120
life story i guess or

1920
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:39,360
or we can look at it and and actually

1921
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:40,800
take it for

1922
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:42,239
for something that we

1923
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:44,800
that we can actually witness ourselves

1924
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:47,040
with our with our own naked eyes with

1925
01:20:50,709 --> 01:20:49,199
regards to the cycles of what's going on

1926
01:20:52,630 --> 01:20:50,719
in the cosmos and i think that there's

1927
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:52,640
something very profound going on in the

1928
01:20:58,070 --> 01:20:54,960
bible and other religious texts

1929
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:58,080
as opposed to and i hate to sort of put

1930
01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:59,440
it into this kind of context about

1931
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:01,280
offending people again

1932
01:21:06,550 --> 01:21:04,560
um but i i find it hard to believe that

1933
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:06,560
without any trace evidence other than

1934
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:07,760
the evidence that we've got of what's

1935
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:09,600
going on with these celestial cycles in

1936
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:11,840
the cosmos that there was actually

1937
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:13,360
we're being kind of

1938
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:16,400
not overruled but by over overseen by

1939
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,440
a bearded gentleman on on a cloud

1940
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:21,600
surrounded by

1941
01:21:27,669 --> 01:21:25,360
and i don't think it really makes a lot

1942
01:21:29,189 --> 01:21:27,679
of sense i think we're kind of

1943
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:29,199
going hook line and sinker for the

1944
01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:30,880
proverbial comic book version of a

1945
01:21:34,950 --> 01:21:32,800
scientific blueprint for what's actually

1946
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going on

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it's not uh

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certainly christianity is is based on

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everything that you just described and

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we understand that and we can get all

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01:21:49,110 --> 01:21:47,199
the metaphors out of it the crux right

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the southern cross

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01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:51,440
everything comes into play right and it

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01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:53,600
just fits into the story and it's just

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01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:56,400
like wow okay so it was just there in

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01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:58,719
the stars the whole time well okay

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01:22:04,229 --> 01:22:00,639
there's that part but

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christianity is the only one to base

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01:22:09,189 --> 01:22:06,880
their religion if it was on the stars

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01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:09,199
and it was cosmological like you're

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01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:12,480
stating here but everybody and certainly

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01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:15,040
the ancient egyptians uh we can go to

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the far east and the far west

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01:22:21,669 --> 01:22:19,600
all everything was based on the same the

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01:22:22,470 --> 01:22:21,679
same star patterns

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sure

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01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:28,080
into it as well um if i may again be so

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bold just

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instead of me butchering my own

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01:22:33,669 --> 01:22:31,760
hypothesis

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01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:33,679
to kind of give um give the listeners a

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01:22:37,350 --> 01:22:35,600
bit more of an idea of which direction

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01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:37,360
this is heading tonight with regards to

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01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:38,800
furthering our discussion i'd like to

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01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:40,159
maybe read the back page of the book

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01:22:44,149 --> 01:22:42,000
once again with regards to osiris and

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01:22:46,550 --> 01:22:44,159
what this actually means for religion

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absolutely

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okay so the spirit in the sky basically

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01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:49,920
untangles the scientific people found

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01:22:54,070 --> 01:22:51,760
mythology surrounding ancient egyptian

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01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:54,080
god of resurrection osiris

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01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:56,159
now osiris is traditionally depicted as

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01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:57,840
the celestial hunter of the heavens who

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01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:00,159
is immortalized on a macrocosmic scale

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01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:02,560
of the constellation of orion

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01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:04,960
osiris however is also considered as

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01:23:09,669 --> 01:23:06,960
considered as the complete embodiment of

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01:23:11,830 --> 01:23:09,679
all things acacia an abundant botanical

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01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:11,840
variety known for highly extractable

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01:23:15,910 --> 01:23:13,840
potentials of the world's most illicit

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01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:15,920
god inducing psychoactive enthusiasm

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01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:17,600
compound which is also found in the

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human brain it's a mouthful i know and i

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01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:21,280
apologize

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01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:23,520
but dub the spirit molecule nmda method

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01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:26,080
tryptamine also known as dmt is also the

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01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:28,320
key ingredient of an ancient shamanic

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01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:30,639
amazon intoxicant known as ayahuasca and

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01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:33,840
thus is described as the vine of

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01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:35,760
moreover the molecular structure of this

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01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:38,159
microscopic fingerprint at this month

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01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:40,639
excuse me of this nirvana-like state of

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01:23:43,430 --> 01:23:42,239
god induced perception is also a

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01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:43,440
comprehensive match for the

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01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:45,360
constellation of orion

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01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,120
now what i'm putting to

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01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:49,360
let's stop actually let me stop you

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01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:50,960
right there because that's a very

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01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:53,440
important point and it's also the cover

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01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:55,120
of the book

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01:23:59,830 --> 01:23:57,360
so when you state that go ahead and

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01:24:02,470 --> 01:23:59,840
describe to the audience what you're

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01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:02,480
referring to

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01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:04,159
okay

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01:24:08,709 --> 01:24:06,320
there's maybe we need a little bit of a

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01:24:11,189 --> 01:24:08,719
backstory for this to be fair um which i

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01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:11,199
can go into afterwards i'd love to but

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01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:13,520
basically the god of god of resurrection

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01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:15,600
osiris has been

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01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:17,760
i'll talk about his mythology in a

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01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:20,480
moment and why it makes

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01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:22,400
a lot more sense

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01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:24,880
to have this scientific outlook as to

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01:24:29,110 --> 01:24:27,040
what this mythology is trying to trying

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01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:29,120
to explain

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01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:32,719
um to us to a scientifically savvy

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01:24:37,189 --> 01:24:33,920
um

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01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:37,199
society like ourselves i guess

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01:24:40,790 --> 01:24:39,280
what what yeah what on earth is actually

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01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:40,800
going on

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01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:42,400
basically the

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01:24:48,310 --> 01:24:44,800
osiris as as a yeah as i've just thought

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01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:48,320
before mentioned is remembered as the

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01:24:53,189 --> 01:24:50,960
the constellation of orion after being

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01:24:54,390 --> 01:24:53,199
murdered by his brother

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01:24:56,629 --> 01:24:54,400
um

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01:24:59,030 --> 01:24:56,639
prior to that he was

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01:25:00,550 --> 01:24:59,040
he was trapped inside and i will get to

2040
01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:00,560
this excuse me for butchering my

2041
01:25:05,110 --> 01:25:03,120
hypothesis but he was actually

2042
01:25:06,629 --> 01:25:05,120
at a point in time tricked into getting

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01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:06,639
into

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01:25:12,070 --> 01:25:10,080
a um a wonderfully ornate coffer

2045
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:12,080
and by his wicked brother seth and cast

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01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:14,239
him to cast him to the into the river

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01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:15,600
nile

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01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:18,639
well he basically

2049
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:20,320
he he was set adrift for a number of

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01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:22,320
days until until he came

2051
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:23,840
and said that the coffer that he was

2052
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:26,480
tricked into getting into was actually

2053
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:28,320
he actually won a ground

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01:25:31,830 --> 01:25:29,520
in

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01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:31,840
on the banks of bibles

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01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:33,679
modern-day lebanon

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01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:38,159
now his wife and his sister isis

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01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:40,560
learn of his untimely fate and bargain

2059
01:25:48,149 --> 01:25:44,639
with the king of bibles to set him free

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01:25:50,229 --> 01:25:48,159
um after after excuse me after a great

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01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:50,239
tamarish tree had actually grown around

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01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:53,360
this coffer on the banks of bibles

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01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:57,520
now we can either take that as

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01:26:01,669 --> 01:25:59,199
as read that

2065
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:01,679
this this ancient egyptian

2066
01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:03,840
god

2067
01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:06,480
had indeed been tricked by his brother

2068
01:26:12,550 --> 01:26:09,360
and set adrift a great tamarind tree

2069
01:26:14,470 --> 01:26:12,560
grown around him and his wife found him

2070
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,480
and and rescued him from within his

2071
01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:16,239
great tamarish tree where his brother

2072
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:17,600
then murdered him

2073
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:19,600
for a second time hence the resurrection

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01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:22,000
went by became a constellation in the

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01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:24,400
night sky forever immortalized as the

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01:26:28,629 --> 01:26:26,400
the macroscopic

2077
01:26:31,510 --> 01:26:28,639
and depiction of the the celestial

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01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:31,520
country of the heavens orion

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01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:36,310
what yeah the the nuts and bolts that

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01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:37,920
has come down to

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01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:39,040
the

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01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:44,400
of osaru so cyrus is obviously he's not

2083
01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:46,800
obvious but he's synonymous with not

2084
01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:48,159
only being

2085
01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:49,600
known as the macro macrocosmic

2086
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:52,480
constellation of orion but is also

2087
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:55,120
um forever remembered as the the

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01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,560
complete embodiment of all things acacia

2089
01:27:01,830 --> 01:27:00,560
and as i stated on the back backpack

2090
01:27:04,709 --> 01:27:01,840
it's usually the back page of the book

2091
01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:04,719
the acacia variety is known for highly

2092
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:07,120
extractable potentials

2093
01:27:11,189 --> 01:27:09,440
of a psychoactive chemical compound

2094
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:11,199
that's found in the human brain

2095
01:27:15,910 --> 01:27:12,800
and secreted quite possibly by the

2096
01:27:17,830 --> 01:27:15,920
pineal gland also which is known as um

2097
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:17,840
an endomethod tryptophan

2098
01:27:23,189 --> 01:27:21,440
now the molecular structure of dmt

2099
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:23,199
is a microscopic match for the

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01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:25,760
constellation of orion hence the tree of

2101
01:27:27,590 --> 01:27:26,800
life

2102
01:27:29,990 --> 01:27:27,600
where

2103
01:27:32,229 --> 01:27:30,000
osiris was

2104
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:32,239
i guess entombed until he was rescued by

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01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:33,760
his wife

2106
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:37,120
this lifeblood of the acacia variety or

2107
01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:39,760
the sap of the the

2108
01:27:43,270 --> 01:27:41,199
the acacia

2109
01:27:45,669 --> 01:27:43,280
within that particular lifeblood or sap

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01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:45,679
we do find um

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01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:47,440
yeah we find

2112
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:49,760
something rather profound it's it's

2113
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:51,679
there's a joke in here so i'm sure there

2114
01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:53,360
is being a carbon copy when we're

2115
01:27:57,270 --> 01:27:55,040
talking about stars but the molecular

2116
01:27:58,629 --> 01:27:57,280
structure of this god inducing anthogen

2117
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:58,639
compound

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01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:00,239
is

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01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:05,760
macroscopic namesake in the sky as above

2120
01:28:10,149 --> 01:28:07,280
so below

2121
01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:10,159
now i've just posted it up in twitter

2122
01:28:15,910 --> 01:28:12,320
for everybody there it is that's orion

2123
01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:15,920
on the left and dmt on the right and

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with that uh uh rn let's take a quick

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break right here this is fade to black

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this out aaron so um i've you know i've

2221
01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:36,159
studied this for years and i just i just

2222
01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:37,760
grabbed this really quick

2223
01:33:43,830 --> 01:33:40,480
how many gods were born to a virgin

2224
01:33:46,550 --> 01:33:43,840
mother on december 25th right

2225
01:33:52,229 --> 01:33:46,560
i just wanted to you know so we have uh

2226
01:33:53,189 --> 01:33:52,239
krishna right mithra horus buddha badou

2227
01:33:55,750 --> 01:33:53,199
uh

2228
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:55,760
quetzalcottle hercules

2229
01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:57,360
uh addis

2230
01:34:01,270 --> 01:33:58,719
tammuz

2231
01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:01,280
and osiris right it's just like wait a

2232
01:34:05,030 --> 01:34:02,560
minute here

2233
01:34:07,030 --> 01:34:05,040
um and and so we just started to talk

2234
01:34:10,229 --> 01:34:07,040
about uh dmt

2235
01:34:12,390 --> 01:34:10,239
uh the pineal gland you know which is uh

2236
01:34:13,910 --> 01:34:12,400
a naturally occurring yeah okay there's

2237
01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:13,920
ayahuasca but

2238
01:34:19,990 --> 01:34:17,440
we are uh we live with it too as well

2239
01:34:23,189 --> 01:34:20,000
and the fact that we have all of this

2240
01:34:26,070 --> 01:34:23,199
cosmology going on up in the sky that

2241
01:34:28,390 --> 01:34:26,080
all tells the same story that's where we

2242
01:34:29,270 --> 01:34:28,400
are at really with this aren't we

2243
01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:29,280
sure

2244
01:34:36,310 --> 01:34:33,679
um in fact it was

2245
01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:36,320
when i was actually

2246
01:34:39,350 --> 01:34:38,159
actually researching this hypothesis it

2247
01:34:41,110 --> 01:34:39,360
was

2248
01:34:44,229 --> 01:34:41,120
i'd like to sort of come back around to

2249
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:44,239
this in a moment if i may sure

2250
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:46,480
and and digressed back to it but it was

2251
01:34:49,990 --> 01:34:48,480
actually

2252
01:34:52,870 --> 01:34:50,000
when i was studying some of scranton's

2253
01:34:54,950 --> 01:34:52,880
work with regards to the the the dogan

2254
01:34:57,350 --> 01:34:54,960
and their ancient

2255
01:35:00,950 --> 01:34:57,360
or mythological tree of life as well i

2256
01:35:03,110 --> 01:35:00,960
actually stumbled upon a documentary

2257
01:35:06,070 --> 01:35:03,120
called the spirit molecule presented by

2258
01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:06,080
joe rogan which was

2259
01:35:10,870 --> 01:35:07,679
in a nutshell

2260
01:35:14,709 --> 01:35:10,880
to do with dr rick stressman's

2261
01:35:18,070 --> 01:35:14,719
studies of the pineal gland in the 1990s

2262
01:35:21,189 --> 01:35:18,080
from mexico new mexico university and

2263
01:35:26,470 --> 01:35:23,830
yeah his study was extremely revealing

2264
01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:26,480
to say the very least

2265
01:35:31,430 --> 01:35:29,440
it actually transpires the the guys that

2266
01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:31,440
were

2267
01:35:35,990 --> 01:35:34,080
i guess being induced with this this

2268
01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:36,000
this spirit molecule

2269
01:35:41,590 --> 01:35:38,159
and dmt

2270
01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:41,600
unlike lsd or psilocybin mushrooms when

2271
01:35:45,350 --> 01:35:43,840
when when intoxicated i think it wasn't

2272
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:45,360
during i don't think it was like the

2273
01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:46,800
shamanic

2274
01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:49,440
ayahuasca ceremony or freebase dnt i

2275
01:35:52,229 --> 01:35:50,560
think it was

2276
01:35:53,910 --> 01:35:52,239
through like intravenous it was actually

2277
01:35:57,189 --> 01:35:53,920
injected into the

2278
01:35:59,189 --> 01:35:57,199
participants of this particular study

2279
01:36:01,910 --> 01:35:59,199
but the participants of this particular

2280
01:36:05,590 --> 01:36:01,920
study were all coming back reporting

2281
01:36:08,070 --> 01:36:05,600
as i say unlike lsd or psilocybin

2282
01:36:10,229 --> 01:36:08,080
misadventures in different place right

2283
01:36:12,550 --> 01:36:10,239
seeing different things these guys are

2284
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:12,560
all seeing pretty much the same thing

2285
01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:14,320
and

2286
01:36:20,790 --> 01:36:17,840
described as having your consciousness

2287
01:36:24,550 --> 01:36:20,800
somewhat smeared across the cosmos and

2288
01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:24,560
it's an out-of-body experience whereby i

2289
01:36:28,709 --> 01:36:27,040
don't think that the human language has

2290
01:36:30,229 --> 01:36:28,719
actually evolved enough to actually

2291
01:36:31,830 --> 01:36:30,239
describe

2292
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:31,840
what is actually being seen on this

2293
01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:33,760
proverbial other society no i think it's

2294
01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:34,880
right

2295
01:36:40,790 --> 01:36:40,000
to continue

2296
01:36:44,550 --> 01:36:40,800
but

2297
01:36:46,229 --> 01:36:44,560
their experiences not only are have been

2298
01:36:49,189 --> 01:36:46,239
remarkably

2299
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:49,199
similar there's that part of it but the

2300
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:50,159
other

2301
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:52,560
side of it clearly suggests

2302
01:36:58,950 --> 01:36:55,440
that they are entering another dimension

2303
01:37:00,870 --> 01:36:58,960
that is not our own and it's also very

2304
01:37:01,830 --> 01:37:00,880
very consistent

2305
01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:01,840
sure

2306
01:37:06,229 --> 01:37:04,159
very very much so very much so and i had

2307
01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:06,239
that i had that outlook for quite a long

2308
01:37:09,990 --> 01:37:08,080
time in regards to the spirit molecule

2309
01:37:10,870 --> 01:37:10,000
documentary and everything that they're

2310
01:37:12,470 --> 01:37:10,880
in

2311
01:37:14,470 --> 01:37:12,480
with regards to this other worldly

2312
01:37:16,629 --> 01:37:14,480
phenomenon of whether it's

2313
01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:16,639
interdimensional

2314
01:37:20,709 --> 01:37:18,800
whether it's a different realm whether

2315
01:37:22,550 --> 01:37:20,719
we're having our conscious sucked out of

2316
01:37:24,310 --> 01:37:22,560
our body and a jet set across the cosmos

2317
01:37:26,310 --> 01:37:24,320
to another time or plane

2318
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:26,320
um

2319
01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:27,760
yeah it's it's

2320
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:30,960
as unfeasible as it sounds it sounded

2321
01:37:37,510 --> 01:37:33,119
it sounds somewhat feasible with regards

2322
01:37:38,870 --> 01:37:37,520
to these i guess rabbis teachers um

2323
01:37:41,109 --> 01:37:38,880
name perfect

2324
01:37:43,030 --> 01:37:41,119
guys with

2325
01:37:44,310 --> 01:37:43,040
and not just to know everybody joe every

2326
01:37:46,830 --> 01:37:44,320
day joe that's sitting there on their

2327
01:37:51,910 --> 01:37:46,840
playstation smoking pot and

2328
01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:51,920
just right right meeting aliens i guess

2329
01:37:55,430 --> 01:37:54,000
these are professional professional

2330
01:37:56,950 --> 01:37:55,440
people you know

2331
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:56,960
that are all reporting on the same sort

2332
01:38:00,550 --> 01:37:58,719
of thing and

2333
01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:00,560
i had an underlying impression that that

2334
01:38:04,709 --> 01:38:02,560
was exactly what was going on that the

2335
01:38:06,950 --> 01:38:04,719
the consciousness was

2336
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:10,870
for unknown reasons um that we're yet to

2337
01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:12,480
that we get to kind of work out i mean

2338
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:14,080
no one's really studying this as

2339
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:16,480
intensity as maybe they should be

2340
01:38:21,109 --> 01:38:17,360
um

2341
01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:21,119
but i'm quite i'm now uncertain that

2342
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:24,159
the consciousness is actually being

2343
01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:26,080
i don't think it's really being

2344
01:38:30,790 --> 01:38:29,119
ejected into into the ether or to

2345
01:38:32,550 --> 01:38:30,800
another dimension or another plane of

2346
01:38:34,149 --> 01:38:32,560
existence entirely

2347
01:38:36,470 --> 01:38:34,159
um

2348
01:38:39,430 --> 01:38:36,480
very very recently i come across the

2349
01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:39,440
work by a gentleman by the name of uh

2350
01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:41,199
dick khan whose book

2351
01:38:46,149 --> 01:38:44,400
um dnt and my cold mind has opened up

2352
01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:46,159
another

2353
01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:50,800
with regards to what this could

2354
01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:52,880
purportedly actually be

2355
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:55,119
actually going on here

2356
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:57,040
um as you may well know the ocular

2357
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:58,800
cavities or the the bandwidth of the

2358
01:39:01,109 --> 01:39:00,000
human eye

2359
01:39:04,229 --> 01:39:01,119
he's only

2360
01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:04,239
ridiculous about naught point nor eight

2361
01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:05,920
percent of the bandwidth of what's

2362
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:07,440
actually out there

2363
01:39:11,109 --> 01:39:09,360
as you know bats

2364
01:39:13,510 --> 01:39:11,119
and cats and night vision and what have

2365
01:39:16,550 --> 01:39:13,520
you there's there's different ranges of

2366
01:39:18,629 --> 01:39:16,560
ocular capacities um throughout the

2367
01:39:20,229 --> 01:39:18,639
animal kingdom but we don't really have

2368
01:39:22,070 --> 01:39:20,239
an idea of what's going on we can't

2369
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:22,080
actually see what's

2370
01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:25,040
what's really in front of us but

2371
01:39:30,550 --> 01:39:27,840
it would appear that from

2372
01:39:32,629 --> 01:39:30,560
going back to dick khan's

2373
01:39:35,189 --> 01:39:32,639
research that maybe

2374
01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:35,199
maybe the consciousness isn't being

2375
01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:37,440
i keep saying smeared across the cosmos

2376
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:40,000
and ejected into some ulterior plane but

2377
01:39:45,430 --> 01:39:42,560
maybe it's actually hardwiring the the

2378
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:45,440
pineal gland to actually tune into the

2379
01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:48,480
the other proverbial 96 of what we don't

2380
01:39:53,030 --> 01:39:49,840
actually know

2381
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:53,040
um is actually out there and i say 96

2382
01:39:55,990 --> 01:39:54,480
because the nuts and bolts of what we

2383
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:56,000
understand of

2384
01:40:02,310 --> 01:39:58,719
um fundamental reality and matter is is

2385
01:40:05,669 --> 01:40:04,310
and you know what else is fascinating

2386
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:05,679
with that

2387
01:40:12,149 --> 01:40:09,040
is we have accepted and i'm talking

2388
01:40:14,709 --> 01:40:12,159
about a large chunk of this planet it

2389
01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:14,719
doesn't matter if you're hindu buddha

2390
01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:16,960
christian islam

2391
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:18,800
or any other religion for that matter it

2392
01:40:23,189 --> 01:40:20,080
doesn't

2393
01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:23,199
that we have accepted

2394
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:26,560
other realities a heaven a hell

2395
01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:29,199
uh another dimension of uh

2396
01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:31,760
interdimensional beings voices being

2397
01:40:35,910 --> 01:40:34,000
channeled

2398
01:40:38,470 --> 01:40:35,920
we don't have any issues with that right

2399
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:38,480
so where does this actually come from

2400
01:40:44,229 --> 01:40:41,440
from an ancient mindset right two three

2401
01:40:47,350 --> 01:40:44,239
four thousand years ago where they are

2402
01:40:50,470 --> 01:40:47,360
talking about these other realms well

2403
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:50,480
it's because they've been there right

2404
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:51,440
you know

2405
01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:54,239
and some and to be fair i'm not even

2406
01:40:59,189 --> 01:40:56,159
certain that the ancient egyptians

2407
01:41:01,109 --> 01:40:59,199
really understood it in its entirety um

2408
01:41:02,550 --> 01:41:01,119
what this was all about you know

2409
01:41:04,709 --> 01:41:02,560
um i think that they again they've

2410
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:04,719
inherited something that was lost

2411
01:41:08,470 --> 01:41:07,600
pre-cataclysm and they've remembered it

2412
01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:08,480
in

2413
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:11,440
or taught it or they were taught it well

2414
01:41:16,390 --> 01:41:14,320
sure why not why not and i think

2415
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,400
led scranton discusses this with regards

2416
01:41:20,629 --> 01:41:18,400
to his research on

2417
01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:20,639
the ancient dogan tribe

2418
01:41:31,030 --> 01:41:22,000
um

2419
01:41:34,149 --> 01:41:33,109
excuse me basically the groundbreaking

2420
01:41:36,470 --> 01:41:34,159
works of linguist and ancient

2421
01:41:38,550 --> 01:41:36,480
cosmologists led scranton and

2422
01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:38,560
mainly his work with the primitive

2423
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:40,560
primitive modern day tribe known as the

2424
01:41:44,790 --> 01:41:42,239
bogan

2425
01:41:46,629 --> 01:41:44,800
his work i think the book was called

2426
01:41:48,550 --> 01:41:46,639
science of the dogen

2427
01:41:49,750 --> 01:41:48,560
that's right that's right that's right

2428
01:41:51,990 --> 01:41:49,760
there's about eight or nine different

2429
01:41:53,270 --> 01:41:52,000
publications and each one is even more

2430
01:41:55,430 --> 01:41:53,280
groundbreaking

2431
01:41:57,669 --> 01:41:55,440
than the next to be fair

2432
01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:57,679
um but if i can quote him just to kind

2433
01:42:02,229 --> 01:41:59,360
of

2434
01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:02,239
yes set the scene as it were

2435
01:42:05,270 --> 01:42:03,360
it basically states that the

2436
01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:05,280
correlations between vogue and myths and

2437
01:42:09,510 --> 01:42:07,119
science begin with explicit statements

2438
01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:09,520
by the dogan priests which established

2439
01:42:13,430 --> 01:42:11,679
the esoteric tradition of the dogan is

2440
01:42:16,070 --> 01:42:13,440
specifically understood to describe the

2441
01:42:17,590 --> 01:42:16,080
underlying processes by which matter and

2442
01:42:19,750 --> 01:42:17,600
life were formed

2443
01:42:21,750 --> 01:42:19,760
details of these processes then play out

2444
01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:21,760
in parallel with modern-day scientific

2445
01:42:26,229 --> 01:42:23,520
theory matching the components and

2446
01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:26,239
component processes of myth with those

2447
01:42:29,750 --> 01:42:27,520
of science

2448
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:29,760
yet this kind of direct correlation with

2449
01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:32,080
known facts taken in any other context

2450
01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:33,840
than that of ancient myths should surely

2451
01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:35,760
be accepted as a positive statement of

2452
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:37,840
real knowledge

2453
01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:40,320
well and they they demonstrated that too

2454
01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:42,719
through all of their symbology which was

2455
01:42:48,550 --> 01:42:44,800
consistent to

2456
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:48,560
uh atomic level atomic now

2457
01:42:54,950 --> 01:42:52,159
atomic level uh construction of not only

2458
01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:54,960
atoms and what they consisted of but

2459
01:43:00,550 --> 01:42:58,719
that same symbology crossed over into

2460
01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:00,560
egypt and other cultures around the

2461
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:03,040
world too where does the knowledge of

2462
01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:05,920
what is on the inside of an atom

2463
01:43:10,149 --> 01:43:06,960
come from

2464
01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:10,159
from an ancient tribe like the dogans

2465
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:12,080
sure and it's

2466
01:43:16,310 --> 01:43:14,560
it's something that i can't explain

2467
01:43:18,390 --> 01:43:16,320
right something everyone's having a real

2468
01:43:21,109 --> 01:43:18,400
hard time explaining so it kind of gets

2469
01:43:22,790 --> 01:43:21,119
shelved as pseudo science and mythology

2470
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:22,800
which again is doing ourselves a

2471
01:43:27,430 --> 01:43:25,440
profound injustice to

2472
01:43:29,669 --> 01:43:27,440
to where we've been you know and i'll go

2473
01:43:30,629 --> 01:43:29,679
back to the bible again they said

2474
01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:30,639
um

2475
01:43:35,910 --> 01:43:33,280
there's nothing new under the sun and

2476
01:43:37,109 --> 01:43:35,920
i'm pretty sure that i guess this is

2477
01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:37,119
what we're what we're introducing

2478
01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:38,880
ourselves to today with the subatomic

2479
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:43,990
of these of these

2480
01:43:47,990 --> 01:43:45,760
yeah these

2481
01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:48,000
excuse me

2482
01:43:51,669 --> 01:43:49,920
yeah these higher sciences i think that

2483
01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:51,679
we're we're

2484
01:43:55,750 --> 01:43:53,920
we're rediscovering something that we've

2485
01:43:57,990 --> 01:43:55,760
discovered a long time ago and it only

2486
01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:58,000
makes sense as well that

2487
01:44:01,350 --> 01:43:59,920
we should remember if indeed this has

2488
01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:01,360
played out before

2489
01:44:05,350 --> 01:44:03,600
that if we've actually cracked what this

2490
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:05,360
this this whole

2491
01:44:09,189 --> 01:44:07,520
riddle of consciousness is all about if

2492
01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:09,199
we actually understand the the

2493
01:44:13,669 --> 01:44:11,840
biomechanics of the human brain and what

2494
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:13,679
it means to be human and the potential

2495
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:16,400
realms of

2496
01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:18,880
um whether it's out-of-body experience

2497
01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:21,280
or whether it's reincarnation it's where

2498
01:44:25,669 --> 01:44:23,040
we've come from it's where we're going i

2499
01:44:28,550 --> 01:44:25,679
think these these are channels the

2500
01:44:30,550 --> 01:44:28,560
the need to be

2501
01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:30,560
explained and researched a whole lot

2502
01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:32,800
more as opposed to just getting that

2503
01:44:37,430 --> 01:44:34,320
same jupiter position where we where

2504
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:37,440
we're constantly being laughed at for

2505
01:44:42,149 --> 01:44:39,840
for bringing up these hypothesis you

2506
01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:42,159
know um

2507
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:43,600
there's there's yeah there's there's

2508
01:44:47,830 --> 01:44:45,760
something underlying here

2509
01:44:50,629 --> 01:44:47,840
and it's extreme as i keep saying but it

2510
01:44:52,629 --> 01:44:50,639
is extremely profound um

2511
01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:52,639
either we can

2512
01:44:57,990 --> 01:44:55,840
yeah we can we can believe

2513
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:58,000
i guess the nuts and bolts of what these

2514
01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:00,320
these dogan traditions or

2515
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:03,520
um ancient egyptian traditions or even

2516
01:45:08,390 --> 01:45:06,239
esoteric freemason uh traditions are all

2517
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:08,400
talking about we can either

2518
01:45:13,109 --> 01:45:10,719
we can either cloak that as a cult and

2519
01:45:15,750 --> 01:45:13,119
who do um out of bounds

2520
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:15,760
laughable pseudoscience

2521
01:45:20,470 --> 01:45:18,400
and continue to believe in i guess which

2522
01:45:21,990 --> 01:45:20,480
is becoming i've said it earlier on i'm

2523
01:45:24,629 --> 01:45:22,000
sorry to repeat myself but it's almost

2524
01:45:26,470 --> 01:45:24,639
like um a comic book version of an

2525
01:45:28,149 --> 01:45:26,480
underlying scientific blueprint to

2526
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:28,159
actually what is going on and what we're

2527
01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:30,960
trying to be told here you know um well

2528
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:34,000
are you suggesting rn let me uh let me

2529
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:35,920
go back to what you're talking about

2530
01:45:42,189 --> 01:45:38,400
earlier are you suggesting

2531
01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:42,199
that there was indeed a higher

2532
01:45:46,229 --> 01:45:43,840
pre-cataclysmic

2533
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:46,239
technology civilization

2534
01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:50,639
that uh was nearly wiped out that turned

2535
01:45:56,310 --> 01:45:52,639
and

2536
01:46:00,950 --> 01:45:56,320
migrated into not only egyptian culture

2537
01:46:03,750 --> 01:46:00,960
dogan culture um south american uh and

2538
01:46:06,229 --> 01:46:03,760
far east cultures where this knowledge

2539
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:06,239
was just shared with everybody around

2540
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:08,560
the world is that what you're suggesting

2541
01:46:12,070 --> 01:46:10,480
yes certainly certainly it's not just

2542
01:46:14,550 --> 01:46:12,080
myself however obviously going back to

2543
01:46:16,390 --> 01:46:14,560
the names of your scranton carlson west

2544
01:46:17,590 --> 01:46:16,400
cloudsons hancocks

2545
01:46:19,109 --> 01:46:17,600
um

2546
01:46:21,910 --> 01:46:19,119
they're all saying the same thing and

2547
01:46:24,790 --> 01:46:21,920
it's the more you look into this uh the

2548
01:46:27,189 --> 01:46:24,800
the the more obvious it becomes well the

2549
01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:27,199
skeptic will say and i would love to

2550
01:46:30,390 --> 01:46:29,119
hear your answer for this the skeptic is

2551
01:46:31,910 --> 01:46:30,400
going to say

2552
01:46:34,470 --> 01:46:31,920
that

2553
01:46:36,870 --> 01:46:34,480
you're not giving enough credit to stone

2554
01:46:39,270 --> 01:46:36,880
age man that

2555
01:46:41,990 --> 01:46:39,280
they they knew how to carve these stones

2556
01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:42,000
they knew how to place them at 10 000 bc

2557
01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:44,239
they knew how to quarry they knew about

2558
01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:46,080
fine art they knew

2559
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:48,480
uh about the stars and they studied this

2560
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:50,800
and that's what it was it wasn't

2561
01:46:55,430 --> 01:46:52,000
anything

2562
01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:55,440
crazy or fantasmic with some high

2563
01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:56,719
technical

2564
01:47:03,189 --> 01:46:59,520
uh high technological society that was

2565
01:47:05,109 --> 01:47:03,199
running around before the ice age

2566
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:05,119
and these guys are still stumps on how

2567
01:47:07,830 --> 01:47:06,960
these

2568
01:47:11,030 --> 01:47:07,840
masterpieces megalithic

2569
01:47:14,470 --> 01:47:11,040
guess right um we're actually engineered

2570
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:14,480
um let alone transported and

2571
01:47:19,030 --> 01:47:16,960
constructed with with phenomenal

2572
01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:19,040
precision with not just with the stars

2573
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:20,560
but with one another across the globe

2574
01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:21,520
you know

2575
01:47:26,310 --> 01:47:23,760
well with uh with uh with the great

2576
01:47:28,229 --> 01:47:26,320
pyramid that's one thing we can question

2577
01:47:30,310 --> 01:47:28,239
the dating on that i certainly i think

2578
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:30,320
it's 50 000 years old you know i don't

2579
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:32,719
think it was 2500 bc but

2580
01:47:35,750 --> 01:47:33,600
um

2581
01:47:37,990 --> 01:47:35,760
we don't know the dating of it right we

2582
01:47:40,470 --> 01:47:38,000
don't have anything definitive but go

2583
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:40,480
beckley tepi we do

2584
01:47:44,310 --> 01:47:42,800
okay now we've got carbon dating there

2585
01:47:46,470 --> 01:47:44,320
that says

2586
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:46,480
clearly without question

2587
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:50,880
10 500 bc and older

2588
01:47:53,990 --> 01:47:51,920
now

2589
01:47:56,390 --> 01:47:54,000
wait a minute here goldbergly tepee

2590
01:47:59,030 --> 01:47:56,400
wasn't supposed to exist you would think

2591
01:48:02,709 --> 01:47:59,040
that that would shut the skeptics up

2592
01:48:06,149 --> 01:48:02,719
it hasn't why is that

2593
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:06,159
um i think that there's

2594
01:48:10,149 --> 01:48:08,080
without wanting to

2595
01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:10,159
okay i'll offend them

2596
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:11,920
no you're not gonna know there's a lot

2597
01:48:17,189 --> 01:48:13,679
of men in

2598
01:48:19,669 --> 01:48:17,199
in very expensive buildings that are

2599
01:48:22,870 --> 01:48:19,679
basically scared of their life work

2600
01:48:25,750 --> 01:48:22,880
being not for nothing but

2601
01:48:30,070 --> 01:48:27,750
if they could it's like if it's not

2602
01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:30,080
broke why fix it but they can't see it

2603
01:48:34,470 --> 01:48:33,119
that this historical timeline is broke

2604
01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:34,480
um

2605
01:48:38,149 --> 01:48:36,400
something most definitely came before i

2606
01:48:40,629 --> 01:48:38,159
mean i'd like to quote from my book

2607
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:40,639
again if i may i may be yeah it may be

2608
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:42,960
so bold if you can consider this if you

2609
01:48:47,030 --> 01:48:45,199
will i mean what if i

2610
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:47,040
what if i told you that history is

2611
01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:49,840
merely of 50 or so lives long

2612
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:52,080
um what do i mean by this now if you can

2613
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:53,920
let me explain

2614
01:48:57,910 --> 01:48:55,920
documented history that is the earliest

2615
01:49:00,149 --> 01:48:57,920
chronologies of civilized society being

2616
01:49:01,590 --> 01:49:00,159
that of ancient sumerians in mesopotamia

2617
01:49:03,990 --> 01:49:01,600
and the early dynastic egyptian

2618
01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:04,000
counterparts they had they historically

2619
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:05,520
dated his emergence separate of one

2620
01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:08,800
another sometime around 3500 bc

2621
01:49:13,270 --> 01:49:11,119
yeah it wasn't until the meteoric rise

2622
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:13,280
and unexcused meteoric unexplained rise

2623
01:49:16,870 --> 01:49:15,040
and then the peculiarly sudden and

2624
01:49:19,189 --> 01:49:16,880
almost illogical decline regarding

2625
01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:19,199
technological know-how and our writing

2626
01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:23,679
system was introduced around 3100 bc

2627
01:49:28,870 --> 01:49:26,960
so 3100 bc then we can effectively state

2628
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:28,880
that we have a starting point or a fixed

2629
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:30,800
point of reference

2630
01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:33,520
now what do i mean by 50 50 lives long

2631
01:49:37,990 --> 01:49:35,840
now the average human life expectancy in

2632
01:49:39,109 --> 01:49:38,000
living in the modern era is around some

2633
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:39,119
30

2634
01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:41,679
72 years or so and it's not uncommon for

2635
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:43,679
us to exceed 100 years

2636
01:49:47,430 --> 01:49:45,760
now with this in mind if we endeavor to

2637
01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:47,440
measure recorded history against the

2638
01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:49,840
life cycles of human beings equated to

2639
01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:51,520
that of a hundred years

2640
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:53,760
and in fact each life excuse me each

2641
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:56,000
lifetime was in fact lived out back to

2642
01:50:01,189 --> 01:49:58,159
back that is to say a man or woman is

2643
01:50:02,709 --> 01:50:01,199
born lives 100 years diet and then

2644
01:50:04,310 --> 01:50:02,719
another man a woman is born and the

2645
01:50:06,109 --> 01:50:04,320
cycle is repeated

2646
01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:06,119
from our starting point of reference

2647
01:50:11,430 --> 01:50:09,760
3100 bc to 2018 we find that the

2648
01:50:16,070 --> 01:50:11,440
documented human story is a

2649
01:50:20,550 --> 01:50:18,550
that's that's absolutely staggering as

2650
01:50:22,629 --> 01:50:20,560
far as i'm concerned and we can

2651
01:50:24,470 --> 01:50:22,639
we can shorten that as well

2652
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:24,480
with regards to the

2653
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:26,320
i guess the advent or the the time of

2654
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:28,480
christ

2655
01:50:35,350 --> 01:50:33,430
if we do that then then the timeline of

2656
01:50:37,990 --> 01:50:35,360
the chronology of history is only 21

2657
01:50:40,550 --> 01:50:38,000
lifetimes long and some something's

2658
01:50:42,550 --> 01:50:40,560
clearly missing you know

2659
01:50:44,870 --> 01:50:42,560
um

2660
01:50:46,709 --> 01:50:44,880
randall carlson i'd like to bring up

2661
01:50:48,550 --> 01:50:46,719
suggest the following analogy for this

2662
01:50:51,430 --> 01:50:48,560
as well if we equate the timeline of

2663
01:50:54,709 --> 01:50:51,440
modern anatomical human beings of 180

2664
01:50:59,109 --> 01:50:57,030
and documented history of say the last 5

2665
01:51:00,709 --> 01:50:59,119
000 years and create a hypothetical

2666
01:51:02,629 --> 01:51:00,719
yardstick from which to measure what

2667
01:51:05,350 --> 01:51:02,639
becomes glaringly apparent is that for

2668
01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:05,360
every inch of our 36 inch yardstick is

2669
01:51:09,669 --> 01:51:08,159
the equivalent of 5 000 years only one

2670
01:51:11,830 --> 01:51:09,679
of which accounts for the entire

2671
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:11,840
catalogue of recorded history right

2672
01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:16,950
that's exactly right

2673
01:51:20,709 --> 01:51:19,280
i i've thought about this so much the

2674
01:51:23,109 --> 01:51:20,719
problem

2675
01:51:25,189 --> 01:51:23,119
uh that the academics have with us when

2676
01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:25,199
you when you look at it

2677
01:51:29,669 --> 01:51:27,280
is now we're talking about hard numbers

2678
01:51:32,709 --> 01:51:29,679
and when you talk about hard numbers and

2679
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:32,719
the evidence clearly says one thing

2680
01:51:36,870 --> 01:51:35,920
but they are asking us to accept another

2681
01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:36,880
and

2682
01:51:41,189 --> 01:51:37,679
they

2683
01:51:43,990 --> 01:51:41,199
can put it

2684
01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:44,000
they don't have evidence on their side

2685
01:51:52,149 --> 01:51:45,760
all we do

2686
01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:52,159
we present something else we get we hear

2687
01:51:57,830 --> 01:51:55,840
here and and their answer is no

2688
01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:57,840
you know that's the answer the answer is

2689
01:52:01,430 --> 01:52:00,159
well no you you've got it wrong what do

2690
01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:01,440
you mean

2691
01:52:06,629 --> 01:52:03,520
you know we've got it wrong the one

2692
01:52:08,629 --> 01:52:06,639
thing that um we have going for us right

2693
01:52:09,750 --> 01:52:08,639
now that we've never had before in

2694
01:52:12,950 --> 01:52:09,760
history

2695
01:52:15,990 --> 01:52:12,960
is you just pointed it out 3500 bc is

2696
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:16,000
the magic number right 3000 bc uh we

2697
01:52:21,990 --> 01:52:19,599
have uh uh ancient samaria we have

2698
01:52:24,950 --> 01:52:22,000
ancient egypt 3000 bc

2699
01:52:27,830 --> 01:52:24,960
everything falls into place after that

2700
01:52:30,149 --> 01:52:27,840
the schools will tell you that is the

2701
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:30,159
beginning of everything 3000 bc right

2702
01:52:33,669 --> 01:52:32,000
there it is there it is well wait a

2703
01:52:37,510 --> 01:52:33,679
minute

2704
01:52:40,470 --> 01:52:37,520
seven thousand years before that

2705
01:52:44,229 --> 01:52:40,480
seven thousand years gobekli tepe is

2706
01:52:46,390 --> 01:52:44,239
built it wasn't supposed to exist they

2707
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:46,400
don't have an answer for that

2708
01:52:50,950 --> 01:52:48,719
and all we do is present more and more

2709
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:50,960
hard facts and that is that's the

2710
01:52:54,310 --> 01:52:52,560
problem that i have you can give them

2711
01:52:56,149 --> 01:52:54,320
all the numbers but they're just going

2712
01:52:59,430 --> 01:52:56,159
to say no

2713
01:53:00,950 --> 01:52:59,440
and that's that's the answer

2714
01:53:03,990 --> 01:53:00,960
and that was covered over as well i

2715
01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:04,000
believe uh it was good deliberately

2716
01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:07,360
covered over now that's oh we're gonna

2717
01:53:13,270 --> 01:53:10,239
head towards a break right here

2718
01:53:15,189 --> 01:53:13,280
deliberately covered why was it covered

2719
01:53:18,709 --> 01:53:15,199
we have a few different

2720
01:53:21,990 --> 01:53:18,719
possibilities here mine is

2721
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:22,000
that they knew that a cataclysmic

2722
01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:24,880
world-changing event was about to happen

2723
01:53:30,229 --> 01:53:27,199
they had warning of it they covered it

2724
01:53:32,070 --> 01:53:30,239
up to save it for us

2725
01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:32,080
that's what i think

2726
01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:37,830
i think i think you've basically got the

2727
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:39,119
money shot there i think you've hit a

2728
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:41,440
nail on the head i think there's there's

2729
01:53:45,990 --> 01:53:43,599
no other royal reason to actually do so

2730
01:53:47,030 --> 01:53:46,000
it's like a um a preservation society

2731
01:53:49,350 --> 01:53:47,040
you know

2732
01:53:50,629 --> 01:53:49,360
um

2733
01:53:52,790 --> 01:53:50,639
yeah

2734
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:52,800
and it doesn't stand alone either i mean

2735
01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:54,880
if we're if we're talking about the the

2736
01:53:59,189 --> 01:53:57,440
impending cataclysm which quite clearly

2737
01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:59,199
happened obviously going back to the the

2738
01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:00,800
greenland

2739
01:54:08,629 --> 01:54:06,239
something happened and

2740
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:08,639
when when the top side

2741
01:54:13,589 --> 01:54:10,320
it's going to be quite hellish you know

2742
01:54:15,589 --> 01:54:13,599
the fallout from from such a celestial

2743
01:54:17,350 --> 01:54:15,599
bombardment let's say

2744
01:54:19,189 --> 01:54:17,360
um topside

2745
01:54:21,189 --> 01:54:19,199
isn't going to be great for living it's

2746
01:54:23,350 --> 01:54:21,199
not going to be very inhabitable no

2747
01:54:24,870 --> 01:54:23,360
matter where you are um

2748
01:54:27,430 --> 01:54:24,880
no matter what your locale is on the

2749
01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:27,440
face this beautiful power blue rock

2750
01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:30,960
um but there's we're still

2751
01:54:33,669 --> 01:54:31,920
yeah

2752
01:54:36,629 --> 01:54:33,679
where do you go

2753
01:54:38,470 --> 01:54:36,639
when when the top side is let's say

2754
01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:38,480
uninhabitable

2755
01:54:43,669 --> 01:54:40,000
because of the fallout because of this

2756
01:54:45,750 --> 01:54:43,679
cataclysm you go you go to ground and

2757
01:54:47,350 --> 01:54:45,760
i'm pretty sure you're aware with

2758
01:54:50,790 --> 01:54:47,360
what's being uncovered throughout the

2759
01:54:53,030 --> 01:54:50,800
rest of turkey and indeed a lot of um

2760
01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:53,040
a lot of europe now as well we talk

2761
01:54:58,470 --> 01:54:55,360
about cappadocia and

2762
01:55:00,550 --> 01:54:58,480
um the underground bunker-like complexes

2763
01:55:01,990 --> 01:55:00,560
that are cut into

2764
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:02,000
sheer bedrock

2765
01:55:08,070 --> 01:55:03,280
um

2766
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:08,080
called derenkuyu which

2767
01:55:13,910 --> 01:55:11,360
basically has some 12

2768
01:55:17,030 --> 01:55:13,920
subterranean levels as i say that uh

2769
01:55:19,750 --> 01:55:17,040
that dug into into bedrock the

2770
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:19,760
not only have ventilation systems

2771
01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:22,000
running water xyz

2772
01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:23,520
um they have

2773
01:55:30,470 --> 01:55:25,440
they have

2774
01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:30,480
i guess space and occupation occupying

2775
01:55:35,990 --> 01:55:32,800
facilities down there to

2776
01:55:37,030 --> 01:55:36,000
to to house in extent of some 20 000

2777
01:55:39,270 --> 01:55:37,040
people

2778
01:55:42,149 --> 01:55:39,280
um and it doesn't it doesn't stand alone

2779
01:55:44,870 --> 01:55:42,159
either there's there's some 200 of these

2780
01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:44,880
subterranean bunker-like accommodations

2781
01:55:47,510 --> 01:55:46,480
that are popping up not just in europe

2782
01:55:49,669 --> 01:55:47,520
but all over the world there's

2783
01:55:53,109 --> 01:55:49,679
mythologies about it being

2784
01:55:55,430 --> 01:55:53,119
um part of the the the inca maya

2785
01:55:57,189 --> 01:55:55,440
mythology

2786
01:55:59,030 --> 01:55:57,199
they haven't don't get me wrong they

2787
01:56:01,189 --> 01:55:59,040
haven't yet been

2788
01:56:02,870 --> 01:56:01,199
excavated let's say but the ones in in

2789
01:56:04,790 --> 01:56:02,880
cappadocia and darren kevin and turkey

2790
01:56:06,870 --> 01:56:04,800
are absolutely breathtaking

2791
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:06,880
and i think it's somewhat

2792
01:56:13,350 --> 01:56:11,440
dismissive to go again with the the

2793
01:56:15,350 --> 01:56:13,360
the mainline security the mainstream

2794
01:56:16,390 --> 01:56:15,360
madness which basically says yeah they

2795
01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:16,400
were just

2796
01:56:20,310 --> 01:56:18,239
they were hunter gatherers they they

2797
01:56:23,750 --> 01:56:20,320
they dug these complexes into the ground

2798
01:56:25,750 --> 01:56:23,760
so they could hide from invaders and and

2799
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:25,760
conquerors from a bygone age it's like

2800
01:56:30,229 --> 01:56:28,320
come on what do you understand how long

2801
01:56:32,470 --> 01:56:30,239
it takes to actually build build

2802
01:56:34,149 --> 01:56:32,480
something like this and where's the

2803
01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:34,159
where's the logic you know if someone's

2804
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:36,480
hiding underground um

2805
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:37,760
what do you want to do you wanna you're

2806
01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:39,040
just gonna wait them out they're gonna

2807
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:40,159
start

2808
01:56:45,109 --> 01:56:43,840
you know it makes no sense whatsoever

2809
01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:45,119
other than

2810
01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:48,080
i guess topside is is is uninhabitable

2811
01:56:52,390 --> 01:56:49,840
and we know that it was now

2812
01:56:55,350 --> 01:56:52,400
some some 12 13 000 years ago at the end

2813
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:55,360
of the uh the last ice age and one of

2814
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:57,280
the most fascinating things about that

2815
01:57:02,390 --> 01:56:59,520
structure is the

2816
01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:02,400
rolling doors the round doors

2817
01:57:07,189 --> 01:57:05,119
that could roll into play that are just

2818
01:57:09,430 --> 01:57:07,199
ginormous and huge

2819
01:57:12,310 --> 01:57:09,440
it's in ingenuity

2820
01:57:14,229 --> 01:57:12,320
ingenious ingenuity actually

2821
01:57:16,870 --> 01:57:14,239
it beggars belief it actually begs

2822
01:57:18,310 --> 01:57:16,880
belief um coming away from that slightly

2823
01:57:20,070 --> 01:57:18,320
but with regards to the ingenuity and

2824
01:57:21,510 --> 01:57:20,080
the size of the rocks and the cumbersome

2825
01:57:23,030 --> 01:57:21,520
um that whether it's the quarry and the

2826
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:23,040
stone makes somewhere what however you

2827
01:57:26,550 --> 01:57:24,480
want to describe it

2828
01:57:29,270 --> 01:57:26,560
but um i guess the bells and whistles

2829
01:57:30,470 --> 01:57:29,280
the razzmatazz kind of picture a picture

2830
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:30,480
postcard

2831
01:57:35,030 --> 01:57:32,159
let's go to egypt is all because of the

2832
01:57:36,709 --> 01:57:35,040
great pyramids and but as fantastic and

2833
01:57:38,870 --> 01:57:36,719
as profound and significantly

2834
01:57:40,390 --> 01:57:38,880
mind-blowing as they are

2835
01:57:42,149 --> 01:57:40,400
and when you realize that they're not

2836
01:57:43,270 --> 01:57:42,159
just just tombs

2837
01:57:45,350 --> 01:57:43,280
um

2838
01:57:46,550 --> 01:57:45,360
a few miles south of there in in in

2839
01:57:48,070 --> 01:57:46,560
saqqara

2840
01:57:50,470 --> 01:57:48,080
we've got the what's known as the

2841
01:57:53,510 --> 01:57:50,480
serpent and i'm sure you know all about

2842
01:57:55,189 --> 01:57:53,520
that i mean the the

2843
01:57:56,390 --> 01:57:55,199
yeah these these

2844
01:58:00,709 --> 01:57:56,400
wonderfully

2845
01:58:02,149 --> 01:58:00,719
um

2846
01:58:04,870 --> 01:58:02,159
they're saying that they're about balls

2847
01:58:08,070 --> 01:58:04,880
coffins balls caskets for burial

2848
01:58:10,629 --> 01:58:08,080
ceremonies they're again cut into

2849
01:58:12,950 --> 01:58:10,639
and transported into the bedrock um

2850
01:58:16,310 --> 01:58:12,960
below the below the plateau

2851
01:58:18,550 --> 01:58:16,320
it's it it it beggars it actually

2852
01:58:19,910 --> 01:58:18,560
absolutely begs belief

2853
01:58:21,510 --> 01:58:19,920
and i bring some of this some of my

2854
01:58:22,870 --> 01:58:21,520
research to my father my father's

2855
01:58:24,149 --> 01:58:22,880
actually in the construction trade with

2856
01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:24,159
diamond drilling

2857
01:58:27,109 --> 01:58:25,840
um and when i'm when i'm showing him

2858
01:58:31,270 --> 01:58:27,119
things

2859
01:58:32,229 --> 01:58:31,280
and some of the groundbreaking work

2860
01:58:33,510 --> 01:58:32,239
of

2861
01:58:37,109 --> 01:58:33,520
christopher dunn that you had on the

2862
01:58:39,430 --> 01:58:37,119
show um very recently it again two and

2863
01:58:41,270 --> 01:58:39,440
two hasn't made fire you know

2864
01:58:42,550 --> 01:58:41,280
we can't we can't

2865
01:58:45,030 --> 01:58:42,560
yeah we can't

2866
01:58:47,109 --> 01:58:45,040
reconstruct this this this ingenuity

2867
01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:47,119
today it's

2868
01:58:50,709 --> 01:58:49,199
yes it's beyond it

2869
01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:50,719
yeah yeah we're still saying that the

2870
01:58:54,790 --> 01:58:52,320
proverbial copper chisels and stone

2871
01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:54,800
wielding um

2872
01:58:59,910 --> 01:58:57,280
work gangs were were carving these some

2873
01:59:01,910 --> 01:58:59,920
3 500 years ago that's right let's take

2874
01:59:03,669 --> 01:59:01,920
a break right here our guest tonight rn

2875
01:59:05,910 --> 01:59:03,679
vu we're talking about his new book the

2876
01:59:07,589 --> 01:59:05,920
spirit in the sky

2877
01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:07,599
uh more when we come back after this

2878
01:59:15,189 --> 01:59:09,360
short break this is fade to black stay

2879
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2985
02:04:14,629 --> 02:04:13,040
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

2986
02:04:17,350 --> 02:04:14,639
jimmy church our guest tonight are in

2987
02:04:19,830 --> 02:04:17,360
booth live from the uk talking about his

2988
02:04:22,070 --> 02:04:19,840
new book spirit in the sky

2989
02:04:24,070 --> 02:04:22,080
and what i would like to do are and i

2990
02:04:26,229 --> 02:04:24,080
want to go back and one of the things

2991
02:04:27,109 --> 02:04:26,239
that we touched upon which i think is uh

2992
02:04:31,030 --> 02:04:27,119
not

2993
02:04:33,430 --> 02:04:31,040
points in your book but

2994
02:04:35,910 --> 02:04:33,440
in in general when we talk about the

2995
02:04:37,510 --> 02:04:35,920
history of us and where we came from and

2996
02:04:39,669 --> 02:04:37,520
the questions that we always ask

2997
02:04:41,350 --> 02:04:39,679
ourselves you know where do we come from

2998
02:04:44,310 --> 02:04:41,360
you know how do we get here what are we

2999
02:04:46,550 --> 02:04:44,320
doing here and what happens after we die

3000
02:04:49,830 --> 02:04:46,560
well when we talk about all of this i'm

3001
02:04:53,189 --> 02:04:49,840
gonna hold up uh to uh the camera

3002
02:04:57,109 --> 02:04:53,199
uh here for everybody to see but that is

3003
02:04:59,350 --> 02:04:57,119
you know the eye of ra and and how it it

3004
02:05:00,229 --> 02:04:59,360
quite possibly represents the pineal

3005
02:05:03,830 --> 02:05:00,239
gland

3006
02:05:06,709 --> 02:05:03,840
and that the ancient egyptians clearly

3007
02:05:08,310 --> 02:05:06,719
had knowledge of this and

3008
02:05:09,430 --> 02:05:08,320
what the

3009
02:05:12,629 --> 02:05:09,440
uh

3010
02:05:14,709 --> 02:05:12,639
importance of the third eye was to us

3011
02:05:16,229 --> 02:05:14,719
and the eye of orris or whatever however

3012
02:05:18,870 --> 02:05:16,239
you want to present this

3013
02:05:22,149 --> 02:05:18,880
but uh a dmt

3014
02:05:25,030 --> 02:05:22,159
and and the question of uh

3015
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:25,040
of of what this represented into another

3016
02:05:28,310 --> 02:05:26,159
dimension

3017
02:05:31,430 --> 02:05:28,320
and and all of this you know the god

3018
02:05:34,550 --> 02:05:32,550
right

3019
02:05:35,510 --> 02:05:34,560
yeah the the

3020
02:05:37,589 --> 02:05:35,520
mature

3021
02:05:39,830 --> 02:05:37,599
plexus is again it's another

3022
02:05:40,950 --> 02:05:39,840
comprehensive match for for the eye of

3023
02:05:42,310 --> 02:05:40,960
iran

3024
02:05:45,589 --> 02:05:42,320
either it's a

3025
02:05:48,790 --> 02:05:45,599
yes it's a sacred talisman um

3026
02:05:51,589 --> 02:05:48,800
which we're told through egyptology

3027
02:05:53,189 --> 02:05:51,599
um but again i don't think the egyptian

3028
02:05:55,830 --> 02:05:53,199
logical ideal is

3029
02:05:57,510 --> 02:05:55,840
he's yeah he's doing

3030
02:06:01,990 --> 02:05:57,520
doing this justice with regards to

3031
02:06:04,149 --> 02:06:02,000
what's trying to actually be um

3032
02:06:06,229 --> 02:06:04,159
yeah big deliver to us here

3033
02:06:08,709 --> 02:06:06,239
uh i think there's another

3034
02:06:10,950 --> 02:06:08,719
far more scientific blueprint for for

3035
02:06:16,629 --> 02:06:10,960
what these

3036
02:06:21,109 --> 02:06:19,910
well and and i guess my my question is

3037
02:06:24,350 --> 02:06:21,119
uh

3038
02:06:27,109 --> 02:06:24,360
were were the ancient egyptians

3039
02:06:29,510 --> 02:06:27,119
experiencing uh

3040
02:06:32,470 --> 02:06:29,520
psychedelic drugs you know either

3041
02:06:34,310 --> 02:06:32,480
naturally or did they figure it out

3042
02:06:37,589 --> 02:06:34,320
figure the compounds out and quite

3043
02:06:38,870 --> 02:06:37,599
possibly explore this

3044
02:06:40,629 --> 02:06:38,880
um

3045
02:06:43,669 --> 02:06:40,639
i'm on yeah that's

3046
02:06:45,270 --> 02:06:43,679
a great question jimmy um it's one that

3047
02:06:47,910 --> 02:06:45,280
i yeah i think anyone's going to have a

3048
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:47,920
hard time answering we know that they

3049
02:06:53,350 --> 02:06:50,560
they they ingested um

3050
02:06:56,470 --> 02:06:53,360
the psychoactive blue lotus

3051
02:06:59,830 --> 02:06:56,480
which graham hancock has

3052
02:07:01,910 --> 02:06:59,840
done a lot of research on and publicized

3053
02:07:03,669 --> 02:07:01,920
um but with regards to

3054
02:07:04,870 --> 02:07:03,679
yeah there's a lot of hearsay don't get

3055
02:07:08,310 --> 02:07:04,880
me wrong

3056
02:07:10,310 --> 02:07:08,320
um but again i think what is going on

3057
02:07:11,510 --> 02:07:10,320
throughout ancient egypt i think that

3058
02:07:18,229 --> 02:07:11,520
they

3059
02:07:19,350 --> 02:07:18,239
we're doing today i think that

3060
02:07:22,149 --> 02:07:19,360
i don't think they're reading the

3061
02:07:24,149 --> 02:07:22,159
instruction manual correctly if

3062
02:07:26,709 --> 02:07:24,159
if that makes any sense i think that

3063
02:07:29,189 --> 02:07:26,719
they're still i think they're still

3064
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:29,199
depicting gods of resurrection like we

3065
02:07:33,510 --> 02:07:31,760
are today and running away with it um

3066
02:07:35,589 --> 02:07:33,520
and not really remembering the nuts and

3067
02:07:37,830 --> 02:07:35,599
bolts of

3068
02:07:40,709 --> 02:07:37,840
what this was what yeah what it was

3069
02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:40,719
fundamentally all about if yeah if i

3070
02:07:45,430 --> 02:07:42,880
haven't completely butchered that no you

3071
02:07:47,430 --> 02:07:45,440
you haven't but what what i find

3072
02:07:50,229 --> 02:07:47,440
interesting here and and certainly brad

3073
02:07:51,910 --> 02:07:50,239
clausen uh talks about it too as well

3074
02:07:53,830 --> 02:07:51,920
and brad is

3075
02:07:57,109 --> 02:07:53,840
is an artist that we've had on the show

3076
02:07:58,629 --> 02:07:57,119
that that has studied the symbology here

3077
02:08:01,270 --> 02:07:58,639
of what is going on

3078
02:08:03,669 --> 02:08:01,280
and when you look at the brain stem

3079
02:08:05,830 --> 02:08:03,679
and you look at the pineal gland and you

3080
02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:05,840
think about what it actually represents

3081
02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:06,960
chemically

3082
02:08:12,310 --> 02:08:09,119
you know to what is going on

3083
02:08:13,830 --> 02:08:12,320
to the christ consciousness and the

3084
02:08:16,790 --> 02:08:13,840
symbology

3085
02:08:19,030 --> 02:08:16,800
of all other uh world religions that are

3086
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:19,040
out there it it

3087
02:08:24,550 --> 02:08:21,599
they knew something and we're going back

3088
02:08:25,910 --> 02:08:24,560
thousands of years here before christ

3089
02:08:29,030 --> 02:08:25,920
and it's a great point that you say

3090
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:29,040
christ consciousness as well because um

3091
02:08:32,629 --> 02:08:30,880
yeah with regard to i mean what what a

3092
02:08:36,069 --> 02:08:32,639
wonderfully inquisitive mind brad

3093
02:08:38,149 --> 02:08:36,079
clarson's got um

3094
02:08:40,709 --> 02:08:38,159
yeah it's it's it's like a knowledge

3095
02:08:42,390 --> 02:08:40,719
bomb every every time yeah

3096
02:08:45,589 --> 02:08:42,400
every time you find out what this guy's

3097
02:08:47,990 --> 02:08:45,599
uncovering um but when i when i saw his

3098
02:08:48,950 --> 02:08:48,000
representation of

3099
02:08:50,629 --> 02:08:48,960
um

3100
02:08:53,189 --> 02:08:50,639
basically not a cross-section but a

3101
02:08:56,790 --> 02:08:53,199
posterior view of the human brainstem

3102
02:08:57,910 --> 02:08:56,800
and that of jesus christ's crucifixion

3103
02:09:06,470 --> 02:08:57,920
the

3104
02:09:08,950 --> 02:09:06,480
talk about christ consciousness

3105
02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:08,960
um which is yeah something that

3106
02:09:12,870 --> 02:09:10,960
something that you touched on yourself

3107
02:09:15,830 --> 02:09:12,880
but the correlations come thick and fast

3108
02:09:17,910 --> 02:09:15,840
with regards to to brad's work as well

3109
02:09:20,310 --> 02:09:17,920
jesus is jesus jesus's legs on the

3110
02:09:22,149 --> 02:09:20,320
crucifix correspond with the brainstem

3111
02:09:25,109 --> 02:09:22,159
his lying cloth are the cerebral

3112
02:09:26,629 --> 02:09:25,119
peduncles and the uh the corporate i'm

3113
02:09:29,350 --> 02:09:26,639
gonna butcher

3114
02:09:31,350 --> 02:09:29,360
the butcher some of these um

3115
02:09:33,510 --> 02:09:31,360
terminologies because again i don't

3116
02:09:35,189 --> 02:09:33,520
claim to be a scientist a physicist or

3117
02:09:36,390 --> 02:09:35,199
any of the above i'm a researcher and

3118
02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:36,400
writer

3119
02:09:41,750 --> 02:09:39,920
um but the pineal gland with regards to

3120
02:09:43,830 --> 02:09:41,760
the the posterior view of the human

3121
02:09:46,310 --> 02:09:43,840
brain stem correlates directly with

3122
02:09:48,709 --> 02:09:46,320
christ's head

3123
02:09:50,790 --> 02:09:48,719
on the the proverbial

3124
02:09:52,550 --> 02:09:50,800
crests crucifixion

3125
02:09:55,109 --> 02:09:52,560
now what i find

3126
02:09:56,470 --> 02:09:55,119
extremely enlightening with regards to

3127
02:09:58,470 --> 02:09:56,480
exactly what you've said the christ

3128
02:09:59,350 --> 02:09:58,480
consciousness there's something going on

3129
02:10:01,350 --> 02:09:59,360
here

3130
02:10:03,830 --> 02:10:01,360
that may have been overlooked as well

3131
02:10:05,350 --> 02:10:03,840
going back to the the strain of acacia

3132
02:10:07,589 --> 02:10:05,360
that has this

3133
02:10:09,510 --> 02:10:07,599
um this these highly extractable

3134
02:10:11,669 --> 02:10:09,520
potentials of this chemical compound

3135
02:10:13,510 --> 02:10:11,679
that we've got in our brain

3136
02:10:14,629 --> 02:10:13,520
um bmt

3137
02:10:20,470 --> 02:10:14,639
it's

3138
02:10:22,709 --> 02:10:20,480
was meant to aware one this this um

3139
02:10:25,109 --> 02:10:22,719
crown of thorns that's right

3140
02:10:27,589 --> 02:10:25,119
during his crucifixion now this crown of

3141
02:10:29,830 --> 02:10:27,599
thorns we find that the the acacia

3142
02:10:31,750 --> 02:10:29,840
variety is a particularly thorny and

3143
02:10:32,629 --> 02:10:31,760
barbed variety

3144
02:10:33,430 --> 02:10:32,639
um

3145
02:10:35,189 --> 02:10:33,440
and

3146
02:10:37,669 --> 02:10:35,199
where that's actually placed on his head

3147
02:10:39,030 --> 02:10:37,679
i think that's another

3148
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:39,040
i guess

3149
02:10:43,990 --> 02:10:42,239
fingerprint of the gods you know kind of

3150
02:10:46,069 --> 02:10:44,000
pointing in the direction to say look

3151
02:10:48,069 --> 02:10:46,079
look what's going on here it's not just

3152
02:10:50,790 --> 02:10:48,079
the the the brain stem

3153
02:10:52,629 --> 02:10:50,800
and the crucif uh yeah the crucified

3154
02:10:54,870 --> 02:10:52,639
christ correlate

3155
02:10:56,470 --> 02:10:54,880
um there's actually a scientific element

3156
02:10:58,069 --> 02:10:56,480
here should we

3157
02:11:00,390 --> 02:10:58,079
yeah should we look a little bit deeper

3158
02:11:02,069 --> 02:11:00,400
we can say yeah boy that crown of thorns

3159
02:11:05,350 --> 02:11:02,079
hurt what's the significance of that i

3160
02:11:10,069 --> 02:11:07,830
biblical terms i couldn't explain but

3161
02:11:11,510 --> 02:11:10,079
i'm a scientific yeah scientific plan

3162
02:11:13,589 --> 02:11:11,520
going back to the christ consciousness

3163
02:11:16,149 --> 02:11:13,599
we're talking about um

3164
02:11:18,229 --> 02:11:16,159
a quite possible precursor for human

3165
02:11:19,830 --> 02:11:18,239
consciousness being this

3166
02:11:21,910 --> 02:11:19,840
this naturally

3167
02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:21,920
um endogenous

3168
02:11:27,109 --> 02:11:24,400
chemical compound secreted from the

3169
02:11:29,270 --> 02:11:27,119
pineal gland in the brain um that we

3170
02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:29,280
also find throughout the the natural

3171
02:11:33,430 --> 02:11:31,360
botanical world in the animal world

3172
02:11:35,030 --> 02:11:33,440
which is found ironically in occasion

3173
02:11:37,589 --> 02:11:35,040
this chronic form

3174
02:11:39,350 --> 02:11:37,599
now do you think it's possible now this

3175
02:11:42,149 --> 02:11:39,360
is where

3176
02:11:44,470 --> 02:11:42,159
little bit but

3177
02:11:47,589 --> 02:11:44,480
do you think it's possible that

3178
02:11:48,790 --> 02:11:47,599
the secretion of dmt through the pineal

3179
02:11:51,270 --> 02:11:48,800
gland

3180
02:11:53,669 --> 02:11:51,280
uh with the ancients

3181
02:11:55,830 --> 02:11:53,679
started to tap into this and they start

3182
02:11:57,430 --> 02:11:55,840
to put things together

3183
02:11:58,310 --> 02:11:57,440
with the stars

3184
02:12:04,390 --> 02:11:58,320
uh

3185
02:12:06,790 --> 02:12:04,400
the rising and the falling of the sun

3186
02:12:10,550 --> 02:12:06,800
each day each night

3187
02:12:13,910 --> 02:12:10,560
and they start to see through this in 3d

3188
02:12:17,270 --> 02:12:13,920
and start to put their gods together

3189
02:12:19,030 --> 02:12:17,280
is this where all of this is leading

3190
02:12:21,510 --> 02:12:19,040
it's an interesting concept one that i

3191
02:12:23,350 --> 02:12:21,520
haven't actually um

3192
02:12:24,709 --> 02:12:23,360
yeah spent much time thinking about in

3193
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:24,719
all honesty

3194
02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:26,400
um

3195
02:12:31,510 --> 02:12:28,800
but i think that they started

3196
02:12:34,790 --> 02:12:31,520
yeah i think they started

3197
02:12:36,470 --> 02:12:34,800
an understanding of the significance

3198
02:12:37,910 --> 02:12:36,480
of the human brain and how we're

3199
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:37,920
hardwired

3200
02:12:43,589 --> 02:12:41,599
um to actually use or respond to these

3201
02:12:44,629 --> 02:12:43,599
chemicals that are supposedly off limits

3202
02:12:47,589 --> 02:12:44,639
you know

3203
02:12:49,589 --> 02:12:47,599
um the the yeah the endocrine system of

3204
02:12:51,910 --> 02:12:49,599
the human brain which is something that

3205
02:12:54,550 --> 02:12:51,920
dr strassman's work with regards to the

3206
02:12:56,390 --> 02:12:54,560
spirit molecule was

3207
02:12:59,030 --> 02:12:56,400
um

3208
02:13:02,950 --> 02:12:59,040
yeah yeah explaining it's yeah explain

3209
02:13:05,189 --> 02:13:02,960
is is basically what i believe someone

3210
02:13:06,870 --> 02:13:05,199
not not in ancient egypt but prior to

3211
02:13:09,030 --> 02:13:06,880
this cataclysm had a profound

3212
02:13:11,270 --> 02:13:09,040
understanding of and i think it's

3213
02:13:12,950 --> 02:13:11,280
something that someone like dr strassman

3214
02:13:15,030 --> 02:13:12,960
is uncovering again

3215
02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:15,040
um that's been lost to us and i think

3216
02:13:19,589 --> 02:13:17,840
that the the the knowledge that had been

3217
02:13:22,790 --> 02:13:19,599
accumulated

3218
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:22,800
um in yesteryear i think it's so

3219
02:13:26,790 --> 02:13:24,480
i think that if we found this today and

3220
02:13:28,790 --> 02:13:26,800
this hadn't played out before and we we

3221
02:13:30,629 --> 02:13:28,800
had an impending cataclysm coming i mean

3222
02:13:35,510 --> 02:13:30,639
we

3223
02:13:38,069 --> 02:13:35,520
bombardment this fallout 12 000 years

3224
02:13:39,910 --> 02:13:38,079
ago happened and it will happen again

3225
02:13:40,950 --> 02:13:39,920
that there is no doubt

3226
02:13:43,270 --> 02:13:40,960
um

3227
02:13:45,750 --> 02:13:43,280
but i believe that if we knew

3228
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:45,760
our impending civilization was about to

3229
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:48,000
come to pretty much an abrupt end like

3230
02:13:52,550 --> 02:13:50,320
it did in yesteryear i think that the

3231
02:13:53,589 --> 02:13:52,560
accumulated knowledge

3232
02:13:55,270 --> 02:13:53,599
um

3233
02:13:56,629 --> 02:13:55,280
would i think that

3234
02:13:59,270 --> 02:13:56,639
what we're trying to say i'm trying to

3235
02:14:00,069 --> 02:13:59,280
say that i think the as a species we

3236
02:14:04,870 --> 02:14:00,079
would

3237
02:14:07,750 --> 02:14:07,030
yeah try and hand it down

3238
02:14:12,149 --> 02:14:07,760
to

3239
02:14:14,870 --> 02:14:12,159
yeah technologically and scientifically

3240
02:14:17,990 --> 02:14:14,880
if not spiritually savvy

3241
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:18,000
um society that that that might rise out

3242
02:14:24,830 --> 02:14:21,040
of the ashes of what once was you know

3243
02:14:27,510 --> 02:14:24,840
well and what i'm suggesting here is

3244
02:14:29,990 --> 02:14:27,520
that through

3245
02:14:32,709 --> 02:14:30,000
a different psychoactive and we're

3246
02:14:34,629 --> 02:14:32,719
specifically talking about dmt here

3247
02:14:36,790 --> 02:14:34,639
where you are introduced to another

3248
02:14:41,109 --> 02:14:36,800
dimension possibly another parallel

3249
02:14:46,550 --> 02:14:41,119
world also out into the universe

3250
02:14:48,470 --> 02:14:46,560
the zodiac aquarius uh pisces libra

3251
02:14:50,149 --> 02:14:48,480
uh virgo

3252
02:14:51,189 --> 02:14:50,159
all of these things

3253
02:14:54,149 --> 02:14:51,199
leo

3254
02:14:56,229 --> 02:14:54,159
are all the same and it can go back to

3255
02:15:00,229 --> 02:14:56,239
go back lee tepe it's certainly

3256
02:15:02,310 --> 02:15:00,239
uh in dandera all the way to greece

3257
02:15:04,870 --> 02:15:02,320
um and rome where everybody was seeing

3258
02:15:05,910 --> 02:15:04,880
the same thing in the skies and all of

3259
02:15:12,310 --> 02:15:05,920
the

3260
02:15:15,109 --> 02:15:12,320
talked about over

3261
02:15:17,669 --> 02:15:15,119
millennia are all the same

3262
02:15:20,550 --> 02:15:17,679
and i think it all goes back to uh the

3263
02:15:23,030 --> 02:15:20,560
pineal gland and how it was represented

3264
02:15:25,270 --> 02:15:23,040
through all of the symbology there's

3265
02:15:27,510 --> 02:15:25,280
something consistent here with all of

3266
02:15:31,589 --> 02:15:27,520
this not everybody could have been born

3267
02:15:33,189 --> 02:15:31,599
from a virgin mother on december 25th

3268
02:15:34,390 --> 02:15:33,199
right right

3269
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:34,400
um

3270
02:15:38,709 --> 02:15:36,400
yeah yeah i i i

3271
02:15:40,149 --> 02:15:38,719
think again i think you're you're

3272
02:15:42,069 --> 02:15:40,159
you're hard on the money again i think

3273
02:15:43,589 --> 02:15:42,079
you you've hit the mail on the on the

3274
02:15:47,669 --> 02:15:43,599
head once again

3275
02:15:48,950 --> 02:15:47,679
um but i think a wonderful way of

3276
02:15:50,790 --> 02:15:48,960
preserving

3277
02:15:52,149 --> 02:15:50,800
this information

3278
02:15:55,510 --> 02:15:52,159
is with

3279
02:15:56,950 --> 02:15:55,520
yeah mythological um metaphors and

3280
02:16:00,390 --> 02:15:56,960
allegories

3281
02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:03,030
almost like a breadcrumb kind of

3282
02:16:08,470 --> 02:16:05,520
situation for

3283
02:16:10,310 --> 02:16:08,480
yeah for a scientifically savvy society

3284
02:16:12,149 --> 02:16:10,320
to actually follow these breadcrumbs and

3285
02:16:14,229 --> 02:16:12,159
actually work out exactly what's going

3286
02:16:16,629 --> 02:16:14,239
on or again

3287
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:16,639
believe the gods were actually rescued

3288
02:16:20,790 --> 02:16:18,880
from inside trees or sit on clouds and

3289
02:16:23,589 --> 02:16:20,800
throw down thunderbolts and

3290
02:16:24,470 --> 02:16:23,599
return on winged horses it's

3291
02:16:25,910 --> 02:16:24,480
um

3292
02:16:29,510 --> 02:16:25,920
yeah

3293
02:16:31,910 --> 02:16:29,520
really make a lot of sense to kind of

3294
02:16:34,469 --> 02:16:31,920
yeah like in my mind to keep kidding

3295
02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:34,479
ourselves um

3296
02:16:38,790 --> 02:16:36,479
that yeah that these gods were actually

3297
02:16:40,709 --> 02:16:38,800
real people that walked the earth um i

3298
02:16:43,110 --> 02:16:40,719
think that there's another underlying

3299
02:16:45,190 --> 02:16:43,120
scientific blueprint for exactly what's

3300
02:16:47,349 --> 02:16:45,200
going on here

3301
02:16:49,429 --> 02:16:47,359
especially when dmt not only is it

3302
02:16:52,070 --> 02:16:49,439
secreted in um the

3303
02:16:54,790 --> 02:16:52,080
human brain it's also found in our spine

3304
02:16:57,190 --> 02:16:54,800
um spinal fluid it's found in our lungs

3305
02:16:58,230 --> 02:16:57,200
and a great variety of

3306
02:17:02,389 --> 02:16:58,240
um

3307
02:17:03,349 --> 02:17:02,399
globe

3308
02:17:05,750 --> 02:17:03,359
and

3309
02:17:08,230 --> 02:17:05,760
throughout the animal kingdom as well

3310
02:17:13,190 --> 02:17:11,589
i wanted to ask you um

3311
02:17:15,910 --> 02:17:13,200
we we

3312
02:17:18,389 --> 02:17:15,920
we talk about osiris a lot

3313
02:17:20,950 --> 02:17:18,399
is there a specific

3314
02:17:22,790 --> 02:17:20,960
origin for the word

3315
02:17:25,190 --> 02:17:22,800
for the name

3316
02:17:27,990 --> 02:17:25,200
which is interested in itself there is

3317
02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:28,000
okay yeah i love dissecting etymologies

3318
02:17:32,230 --> 02:17:30,479
of words and osiris itself i mean os has

3319
02:17:35,190 --> 02:17:32,240
got plethora of meanings

3320
02:17:36,790 --> 02:17:35,200
and the two most revealing for me for

3321
02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:36,800
myself in a medical dictionary it's

3322
02:17:40,870 --> 02:17:39,280
known as an opening or to open

3323
02:17:43,110 --> 02:17:40,880
um

3324
02:17:46,309 --> 02:17:43,120
yeah another description for for for us

3325
02:17:49,429 --> 02:17:46,319
or os um is a god-like deity

3326
02:17:51,190 --> 02:17:49,439
um i uh iris it doesn't take a lot of

3327
02:17:53,830 --> 02:17:51,200
explanation you know we're talking about

3328
02:17:56,549 --> 02:17:53,840
an open eye um and again we can go back

3329
02:17:57,750 --> 02:17:56,559
to the the pineal gland as well

3330
02:17:59,589 --> 02:17:57,760
which

3331
02:18:00,790 --> 02:17:59,599
for for yeah for

3332
02:18:04,469 --> 02:18:00,800
yeah for

3333
02:18:08,830 --> 02:18:06,790
i'm trying to yeah i'm trying to not get

3334
02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:08,840
ahead of myself

3335
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:13,120
um explaining this but dr rick strassman

3336
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:14,240
it was

3337
02:18:20,389 --> 02:18:18,880
to the spirit molecule and and

3338
02:18:21,990 --> 02:18:20,399
and what he

3339
02:18:22,790 --> 02:18:22,000
he's basically showing the world what

3340
02:18:24,389 --> 02:18:22,800
this

3341
02:18:26,870 --> 02:18:24,399
yeah the profoundness of

3342
02:18:28,870 --> 02:18:26,880
what this third eye actually actually

3343
02:18:30,549 --> 02:18:28,880
actually means

3344
02:18:34,549 --> 02:18:30,559
um

3345
02:18:37,509 --> 02:18:35,910
well where do you think

3346
02:18:39,030 --> 02:18:37,519
what was the was the original question

3347
02:18:43,110 --> 02:18:39,040
james i apologize

3348
02:18:46,469 --> 02:18:43,120
the the the etymology of osiris

3349
02:18:49,349 --> 02:18:46,479
and so uh as we uh start to close out

3350
02:18:51,349 --> 02:18:49,359
here and i i do want to thank you uh for

3351
02:18:53,830 --> 02:18:51,359
all of this tonight and the book

3352
02:18:55,270 --> 02:18:53,840
um but where is where do you think

3353
02:18:58,070 --> 02:18:55,280
ultimately

3354
02:19:00,709 --> 02:18:58,080
this is leading us do you think

3355
02:19:04,629 --> 02:19:00,719
uh the egyptologists of the world are

3356
02:19:06,469 --> 02:19:04,639
gonna back up and and finally say okay

3357
02:19:07,990 --> 02:19:06,479
we need to take another look at this i

3358
02:19:10,230 --> 02:19:08,000
don't think it's going to go as far as

3359
02:19:11,270 --> 02:19:10,240
we've got it all wrong let's rewrite

3360
02:19:12,150 --> 02:19:11,280
everything

3361
02:19:13,910 --> 02:19:12,160
but

3362
02:19:16,629 --> 02:19:13,920
where ultimately do you think this is

3363
02:19:19,910 --> 02:19:18,389
um

3364
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:19,920
again i don't think that we've got it

3365
02:19:24,070 --> 02:19:21,920
all wrong i think we've got it right but

3366
02:19:26,309 --> 02:19:24,080
we don't really know why um and i think

3367
02:19:27,990 --> 02:19:26,319
that there's a lot of again just sort of

3368
02:19:31,750 --> 02:19:28,000
digressing back to pineal gland and

3369
02:19:33,669 --> 02:19:31,760
strassmann's work it was it was um

3370
02:19:36,070 --> 02:19:33,679
yeah strassmann's mind that what

3371
02:19:38,230 --> 02:19:36,080
basically got him to start studying the

3372
02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:38,240
the the significance of what was going

3373
02:19:43,270 --> 02:19:40,719
on with this this mystical third eye

3374
02:19:45,750 --> 02:19:43,280
that's remembered throughout not just

3375
02:19:49,190 --> 02:19:45,760
the egyptology but with the vedic the

3376
02:19:52,150 --> 02:19:49,200
invaders the the hindus the babylonians

3377
02:19:55,030 --> 02:19:52,160
the the mayans the aztec

3378
02:19:56,870 --> 02:19:55,040
the list is as long as your arm

3379
02:19:58,469 --> 02:19:56,880
but what he what he discovered was that

3380
02:20:00,870 --> 02:19:58,479
the pineal gland

3381
02:20:03,830 --> 02:20:00,880
actually appears in the human embryo

3382
02:20:06,230 --> 02:20:03,840
after 49 days of gestation and it's also

3383
02:20:07,910 --> 02:20:06,240
after 49 days of um

3384
02:20:10,150 --> 02:20:07,920
but excuse me that the fetus actually

3385
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:10,160
decides it's sexual preference male or

3386
02:20:13,190 --> 02:20:11,280
female

3387
02:20:14,870 --> 02:20:13,200
now stress man realized that the the

3388
02:20:16,710 --> 02:20:14,880
tibetan book of the dead describes the

3389
02:20:18,710 --> 02:20:16,720
soul of the deceased being incarnated

3390
02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:18,720
from one soul to another over a period

3391
02:20:23,750 --> 02:20:21,359
of 49 days

3392
02:20:26,950 --> 02:20:23,760
which you can like you could it's quite

3393
02:20:28,389 --> 02:20:26,960
coincidental don't get me wrong but

3394
02:20:30,630 --> 02:20:28,399
yeah the tibetan book of the dead is

3395
02:20:32,230 --> 02:20:30,640
talking about buddhism but we can go

3396
02:20:35,510 --> 02:20:32,240
back to christianity excuse me

3397
02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:35,520
christianity now if if christ was indeed

3398
02:20:42,870 --> 02:20:40,160
um crucified on on easter we actually

3399
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:42,880
that's like a day of remembrance for for

3400
02:20:46,469 --> 02:20:44,800
what supposedly happened two thousand

3401
02:20:49,510 --> 02:20:46,479
years ago

3402
02:20:51,429 --> 02:20:49,520
excuse me but there's another known um

3403
02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:51,439
celebration festival or holiday

3404
02:20:54,790 --> 02:20:53,200
throughout christianity that's that

3405
02:20:57,510 --> 02:20:54,800
actually takes place

3406
02:20:59,110 --> 02:20:57,520
uh 49 days later as well now it's

3407
02:21:01,910 --> 02:20:59,120
pentecost

3408
02:21:04,790 --> 02:21:01,920
or whitsunday whitson

3409
02:21:06,070 --> 02:21:04,800
which basically describes how

3410
02:21:10,389 --> 02:21:06,080
the

3411
02:21:13,590 --> 02:21:10,399
above to

3412
02:21:15,349 --> 02:21:13,600
christ's 12 12 apostles which is

3413
02:21:17,270 --> 02:21:15,359
significant in itself because we're

3414
02:21:19,190 --> 02:21:17,280
talking about this spirit spirit

3415
02:21:21,349 --> 02:21:19,200
molecule again somewhat descending from

3416
02:21:25,110 --> 02:21:21,359
the sky and there's 12 apostles

3417
02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:25,120
and these 12 apostles go back to

3418
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:26,880
excuse me going back to

3419
02:21:30,950 --> 02:21:28,080
um

3420
02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:30,960
bill donohue's work he talks about the

3421
02:21:37,750 --> 02:21:33,760
the 12 cranial nerves that actually

3422
02:21:40,230 --> 02:21:37,760
attach um the

3423
02:21:42,070 --> 02:21:40,240
yeah the human spinal cord to to the

3424
02:21:44,469 --> 02:21:42,080
brain stem there's actually 12 of them

3425
02:21:46,150 --> 02:21:44,479
which again in turn spike christ excuse

3426
02:21:47,830 --> 02:21:46,160
me um

3427
02:21:49,590 --> 02:21:47,840
yeah and

3428
02:21:51,429 --> 02:21:49,600
to cut a long story short switch on this

3429
02:21:53,590 --> 02:21:51,439
christ consciousness and give it give

3430
02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:53,600
hard wireless to this human experience

3431
02:21:57,750 --> 02:21:55,840
it's um

3432
02:21:59,590 --> 02:21:57,760
yeah there's there's a number of

3433
02:22:00,790 --> 02:21:59,600
religions that everything kind of

3434
02:22:03,349 --> 02:22:00,800
correlates

3435
02:22:05,830 --> 02:22:03,359
or again we can go back to the the

3436
02:22:07,349 --> 02:22:05,840
resurrected gods and believe this this

3437
02:22:09,990 --> 02:22:07,359
it's not a fairy tale but it's like a

3438
02:22:11,590 --> 02:22:10,000
comic book version of what's actually

3439
02:22:13,510 --> 02:22:11,600
trying to be explained to what's

3440
02:22:15,750 --> 02:22:13,520
actually going on here

3441
02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:15,760
well you have to look at it that way too

3442
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:18,479
in that because over

3443
02:22:22,389 --> 02:22:21,280
thousands of years this story has been

3444
02:22:25,349 --> 02:22:22,399
told

3445
02:22:29,030 --> 02:22:25,359
and over and over again and refined and

3446
02:22:31,590 --> 02:22:29,040
refined by the time we start to get into

3447
02:22:36,469 --> 02:22:31,600
the modern sense of the world which is

3448
02:22:38,710 --> 02:22:36,479
you know around year 0 you know 100 a.d

3449
02:22:40,630 --> 02:22:38,720
it it had to get refined and that's

3450
02:22:43,110 --> 02:22:40,640
exactly what they did with it i mean

3451
02:22:45,830 --> 02:22:43,120
they didn't they didn't have a choice so

3452
02:22:47,830 --> 02:22:45,840
it would turn into a comic book version

3453
02:22:50,389 --> 02:22:47,840
i even hate to say that

3454
02:22:51,990 --> 02:22:50,399
of the story because it's been told so

3455
02:22:53,270 --> 02:22:52,000
many times

3456
02:22:55,030 --> 02:22:53,280
yeah and it's another little bit of

3457
02:22:57,030 --> 02:22:55,040
history repeating i mean i was

3458
02:22:58,469 --> 02:22:57,040
discussing um brad clausen's work as

3459
02:23:00,230 --> 02:22:58,479
well with the posterior view of the

3460
02:23:01,990 --> 02:23:00,240
human brain stem

3461
02:23:03,429 --> 02:23:02,000
and the correlations that go hand in

3462
02:23:05,830 --> 02:23:03,439
hand with christ

3463
02:23:07,750 --> 02:23:05,840
crucified if you actually look at

3464
02:23:10,309 --> 02:23:07,760
the bust of the ancient egyptian god of

3465
02:23:11,510 --> 02:23:10,319
resurrection osiris as well

3466
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:11,520
the same

3467
02:23:17,190 --> 02:23:15,520
human brain stem also correlates with

3468
02:23:19,590 --> 02:23:17,200
the eye of horus which is the true oi

3469
02:23:21,510 --> 02:23:19,600
plexus the head dress that um osiris

3470
02:23:23,590 --> 02:23:21,520
wears correlates with the the brain stem

3471
02:23:25,349 --> 02:23:23,600
thalamus the pineal gland this is the

3472
02:23:27,030 --> 02:23:25,359
sun disc and the serpent

3473
02:23:28,710 --> 02:23:27,040
we've also got the crook and flower

3474
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:28,720
which

3475
02:23:33,429 --> 02:23:31,120
it begs belief i mean the crook and

3476
02:23:35,110 --> 02:23:33,439
flower are the cerebral peduncles it's

3477
02:23:37,190 --> 02:23:35,120
it's it's

3478
02:23:38,230 --> 02:23:37,200
it's obvious once you see it hand in

3479
02:23:40,309 --> 02:23:38,240
hand

3480
02:23:42,469 --> 02:23:40,319
um i stumbled across

3481
02:23:44,950 --> 02:23:42,479
some work i forget the researcher's name

3482
02:23:46,469 --> 02:23:44,960
and i do apologize for this

3483
02:23:48,550 --> 02:23:46,479
but if we actually look at a an

3484
02:23:50,870 --> 02:23:48,560
underside cross-section as well of the

3485
02:23:53,910 --> 02:23:50,880
human brain and brainstem

3486
02:23:56,150 --> 02:23:53,920
we actually we actually witness what is

3487
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:56,160
only describable as the the um the

3488
02:24:01,110 --> 02:23:59,200
ancient hindu deity and ganesha which is

3489
02:24:03,590 --> 02:24:01,120
the god of wisdom and intellect it's

3490
02:24:04,469 --> 02:24:03,600
it's a brain function again

3491
02:24:07,110 --> 02:24:04,479
you know

3492
02:24:09,349 --> 02:24:07,120
yeah well when you look at it it once

3493
02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:09,359
you see the artwork or the

3494
02:24:13,990 --> 02:24:12,160
representation side by side

3495
02:24:15,830 --> 02:24:14,000
there's just no question about what you

3496
02:24:17,590 --> 02:24:15,840
are actually seeing here

3497
02:24:21,190 --> 02:24:17,600
i mean it is there was an

3498
02:24:24,230 --> 02:24:21,200
elephant-headed deity walking around um

3499
02:24:25,830 --> 02:24:24,240
yeah um giving out giving out wisdom um

3500
02:24:27,349 --> 02:24:25,840
don't get me wrong

3501
02:24:32,870 --> 02:24:27,359
um

3502
02:24:35,030 --> 02:24:32,880
doubt it i mean again reference in the

3503
02:24:36,389 --> 02:24:35,040
comic book version it's that's kind of

3504
02:24:37,990 --> 02:24:36,399
what we're doing here with elephant head

3505
02:24:39,349 --> 02:24:38,000
deities and you touched on it earlier on

3506
02:24:41,349 --> 02:24:39,359
as well with regards to what's going on

3507
02:24:43,750 --> 02:24:41,359
in ancient egypt if we look at the

3508
02:24:45,429 --> 02:24:43,760
headdress of hathor we can actually i

3509
02:24:47,349 --> 02:24:45,439
think that egyptology is slowly coming

3510
02:24:49,110 --> 02:24:47,359
around to this one as well but half of

3511
02:24:51,990 --> 02:24:49,120
basically a headdress pretty much

3512
02:24:54,550 --> 02:24:52,000
dictates the the reproductive system

3513
02:24:56,630 --> 02:24:54,560
um of the female anatomy and that's

3514
02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:56,640
that's that's that's patently obvious

3515
02:25:03,429 --> 02:24:59,439
once you look at it yeah i feel sorry in

3516
02:25:05,190 --> 02:25:03,439
a weird way uh for brad uh klaus i i

3517
02:25:07,590 --> 02:25:05,200
even told him this

3518
02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:07,600
he can't help himself now

3519
02:25:11,110 --> 02:25:09,520
everything that he sees everything that

3520
02:25:14,070 --> 02:25:11,120
he looks at

3521
02:25:14,950 --> 02:25:14,080
he is making connections with i mean he

3522
02:25:26,790 --> 02:25:14,960
is

3523
02:25:28,469 --> 02:25:26,800
myself i thought some of it was so

3524
02:25:29,910 --> 02:25:28,479
profound it was unbelievable and trying

3525
02:25:32,070 --> 02:25:29,920
to kind of put it into a nutshell and

3526
02:25:33,910 --> 02:25:32,080
describe it over a couple of hours is

3527
02:25:35,990 --> 02:25:33,920
very very hard to do but seeing what

3528
02:25:36,870 --> 02:25:36,000
brad clowson is doing now as well we see

3529
02:25:45,590 --> 02:25:36,880
the

3530
02:25:48,070 --> 02:25:45,600
hollow fells we're told that fertility

3531
02:25:50,070 --> 02:25:48,080
goddesses will yeah well

3532
02:25:51,349 --> 02:25:50,080
child bearing hips and

3533
02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:51,359
what have you

3534
02:25:57,510 --> 02:25:54,640
um it doesn't yeah i mean to a certain

3535
02:25:59,429 --> 02:25:57,520
extent that you can see that but that is

3536
02:26:01,990 --> 02:25:59,439
almost the classic case of parabolia

3537
02:26:04,389 --> 02:26:02,000
we're actually being told that that's a

3538
02:26:06,630 --> 02:26:04,399
fertile female or we can look at brad

3539
02:26:09,429 --> 02:26:06,640
clausen's work and actually say my word

3540
02:26:10,710 --> 02:26:09,439
that is that's that's an ion carbon copy

3541
02:26:13,270 --> 02:26:10,720
for the

3542
02:26:15,510 --> 02:26:13,280
the nuts and bolts of the human um brain

3543
02:26:17,910 --> 02:26:15,520
stem and endocrine system there's that

3544
02:26:19,510 --> 02:26:17,920
holds a lot more weight than a fertility

3545
02:26:21,830 --> 02:26:19,520
goddess

3546
02:26:23,990 --> 02:26:21,840
there's no question about it and so

3547
02:26:26,389 --> 02:26:24,000
richard uh thank you uh for the

3548
02:26:27,990 --> 02:26:26,399
conversation tonight it was just amazing

3549
02:26:29,750 --> 02:26:28,000
where can everybody get conversations

3550
02:26:32,230 --> 02:26:29,760
it's been an absolute blast where can

3551
02:26:36,389 --> 02:26:32,240
everybody get the book

3552
02:26:38,389 --> 02:26:36,399
um amazon amazon.com um amazon uk um and

3553
02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:38,399
i do apologize if i seemed a little bit

3554
02:26:43,510 --> 02:26:41,680
sort of um holding back information only

3555
02:26:45,429 --> 02:26:43,520
the the my latest book that's actually

3556
02:26:47,110 --> 02:26:45,439
gonna be coming out um beginning of next

3557
02:26:48,950 --> 02:26:47,120
year as well there's a lot more

3558
02:26:50,389 --> 02:26:48,960
correlations that go hand in hand with

3559
02:26:52,070 --> 02:26:50,399
this but i don't really want to

3560
02:26:54,230 --> 02:26:52,080
publicize too much until i've obviously

3561
02:26:56,630 --> 02:26:54,240
got the work out there but there's so

3562
02:26:59,190 --> 02:26:56,640
much more to come it's unbelievable the

3563
02:27:03,349 --> 02:26:59,200
the original work itself was initially

3564
02:27:05,590 --> 02:27:03,359
some 350 400 pages long but due to

3565
02:27:07,110 --> 02:27:05,600
yeah due to the delicate nature of what

3566
02:27:08,870 --> 02:27:07,120
i'm actually researching and writing

3567
02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:08,880
about it's hard to find a publisher so

3568
02:27:13,030 --> 02:27:10,720
i've gone down the the self-publishing

3569
02:27:15,910 --> 02:27:13,040
route and had to pretty much exercise

3570
02:27:18,950 --> 02:27:15,920
some 250 pages from the original

3571
02:27:21,510 --> 02:27:18,960
manuscript which is a bit of a shame but

3572
02:27:23,270 --> 02:27:21,520
it was going to be quite hard to try and

3573
02:27:24,950 --> 02:27:23,280
yeah try and convince people to buy a

3574
02:27:27,590 --> 02:27:24,960
book that was going to cost in excess of

3575
02:27:29,750 --> 02:27:27,600
35 dollars yeah right

3576
02:27:31,270 --> 02:27:29,760
and we all understand that we all

3577
02:27:33,270 --> 02:27:31,280
understand that sure but there's a lot

3578
02:27:36,309 --> 02:27:33,280
more to come there's a lot more to come

3579
02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:36,319
um and yeah the majority of this as well

3580
02:27:40,870 --> 02:27:38,080
don't get me wrong i'd like to say a big

3581
02:27:42,550 --> 02:27:40,880
thank you as well to the people

3582
02:27:44,950 --> 02:27:42,560
yeah that made this possible really

3583
02:27:46,710 --> 02:27:44,960
obviously like yourselves um

3584
02:27:49,110 --> 02:27:46,720
pushing this stuff out there um but

3585
02:27:52,550 --> 02:27:49,120
without those these these heavyweights

3586
02:27:54,309 --> 02:27:52,560
of this particular genre of research um

3587
02:27:55,910 --> 02:27:54,319
yeah the majority of what i've compiled

3588
02:27:57,510 --> 02:27:55,920
is literally on the shoulder

3589
02:28:00,469 --> 02:27:57,520
the giants like the hancocks and

3590
02:28:01,830 --> 02:28:00,479
klausens and strassmans of the world

3591
02:28:04,309 --> 02:28:01,840
and graham hancock i'd like to say a

3592
02:28:05,990 --> 02:28:04,319
particular thank you to as well um for

3593
02:28:07,190 --> 02:28:06,000
actually giving me the honor of actually

3594
02:28:08,790 --> 02:28:07,200
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you again sir yeah thank you richard and

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wonderful conversation tonight

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and i'm opening up the phone lines right

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now three two three eight two five five

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zero four five or

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three two three two seven five nine six

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nine five or eight one eight nine two

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one

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six nine two nine let me click on a

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couple of things right here boom

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02:34:19,429 --> 02:34:17,200
and uh the video feed went down and it

3720
02:34:22,630 --> 02:34:19,439
was during the break and i spun around

3721
02:34:24,710 --> 02:34:22,640
and i saw that we lost the video feed

3722
02:34:28,469 --> 02:34:24,720
so it's it's just been stopped i'm not

3723
02:34:30,469 --> 02:34:28,479
going to restart it okay so there you go

3724
02:34:33,349 --> 02:34:30,479
um i'm opening up the phone lines i'm

3725
02:34:34,870 --> 02:34:33,359
lining up a few calls right now and the

3726
02:34:36,710 --> 02:34:34,880
the thing is if you're on hold stay

3727
02:34:39,590 --> 02:34:36,720
right there i'll i'll get to everybody

3728
02:34:41,990 --> 02:34:39,600
we we have one segment left um

3729
02:34:43,910 --> 02:34:42,000
the the more that we look and this is

3730
02:34:44,870 --> 02:34:43,920
what is important about richard's book

3731
02:34:48,469 --> 02:34:44,880
here

3732
02:34:51,590 --> 02:34:48,479
is the more that we look at all of this

3733
02:34:53,190 --> 02:34:51,600
and it's not uh any one thing it's not

3734
02:34:55,590 --> 02:34:53,200
what's carved into walls it's not

3735
02:34:57,110 --> 02:34:55,600
stories it's not papyrus it's not

3736
02:35:00,790 --> 02:34:57,120
uh uh

3737
02:35:04,070 --> 02:35:00,800
you know cave paintings it's not artwork

3738
02:35:05,670 --> 02:35:04,080
it it's not the mythology it's not uh

3739
02:35:07,429 --> 02:35:05,680
the stories that have been had it's not

3740
02:35:09,110 --> 02:35:07,439
any of that

3741
02:35:11,590 --> 02:35:09,120
it's all of it

3742
02:35:13,910 --> 02:35:11,600
and the more that we compile and we look

3743
02:35:16,790 --> 02:35:13,920
in the symbology and the way that all of

3744
02:35:19,429 --> 02:35:16,800
this fits together to say that the

3745
02:35:23,510 --> 02:35:19,439
ancients were on top of their game it's

3746
02:35:26,710 --> 02:35:23,520
it's it's it's it's it pales into what

3747
02:35:29,590 --> 02:35:26,720
is the reality of it there is something

3748
02:35:32,710 --> 02:35:29,600
to all of this and there is no way

3749
02:35:33,910 --> 02:35:32,720
that i am ever going to be convinced or

3750
02:35:37,910 --> 02:35:33,920
told that

3751
02:35:39,830 --> 02:35:37,920
uh you know stone age man uh uh was

3752
02:35:42,230 --> 02:35:39,840
responsible for this so that they they

3753
02:35:44,309 --> 02:35:42,240
could pull this off no

3754
02:35:46,790 --> 02:35:44,319
no that it's it's simply not the case

3755
02:35:48,550 --> 02:35:46,800
and the evidence is mounting it is just

3756
02:35:50,309 --> 02:35:48,560
piling up

3757
02:35:52,870 --> 02:35:50,319
i mean it's it's one of the most

3758
02:35:55,349 --> 02:35:52,880
fascinating parts about all of this

3759
02:35:57,910 --> 02:35:55,359
i had said earlier this week

3760
02:36:01,590 --> 02:35:57,920
or maybe it was last week uh when i went

3761
02:36:04,469 --> 02:36:01,600
on the whole we don't know nothing rand

3762
02:36:05,429 --> 02:36:04,479
the more that we learn today and it it's

3763
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:05,439
it's

3764
02:36:16,469 --> 02:36:13,760
then we take what we have acquired today

3765
02:36:18,950 --> 02:36:16,479
and we look at that and just go back

3766
02:36:21,030 --> 02:36:18,960
a few thousand years and look at what

3767
02:36:22,710 --> 02:36:21,040
the ancients knew look what they were

3768
02:36:26,469 --> 02:36:22,720
building look at the math look at the

3769
02:36:28,710 --> 02:36:26,479
cosmo look just think about what they

3770
02:36:31,110 --> 02:36:28,720
knew back then

3771
02:36:32,630 --> 02:36:31,120
it's it's an unbelievable situation we

3772
02:36:35,270 --> 02:36:32,640
find ourselves in all right let's go to

3773
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area code 571

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you're up next on fade to black who's

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you're live

3776
02:36:46,790 --> 02:36:44,240
all right

3777
02:36:48,630 --> 02:36:46,800
let's go to area code eight three zero

3778
02:36:50,469 --> 02:36:48,640
you're up next on fade to black who's

3779
02:36:55,190 --> 02:36:50,479
calling

3780
02:36:57,030 --> 02:36:55,200
hey jimmy this is uh neil hey neil um

3781
02:36:58,950 --> 02:36:57,040
i was listening um

3782
02:37:01,349 --> 02:36:58,960
you know a lot of people yeah i don't

3783
02:37:03,590 --> 02:37:01,359
understand about um

3784
02:37:05,349 --> 02:37:03,600
the history of the earth when the

3785
02:37:07,590 --> 02:37:05,359
dinosaurs

3786
02:37:10,630 --> 02:37:07,600
uh was destroyed like two million years

3787
02:37:11,990 --> 02:37:10,640
ago they had giant humans walking upon

3788
02:37:13,190 --> 02:37:12,000
the earth

3789
02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:13,200
what do you mean the

3790
02:37:17,990 --> 02:37:15,120
dinosaurs were

3791
02:37:20,710 --> 02:37:18,000
two million years ago you mean 65

3792
02:37:22,710 --> 02:37:20,720
million years ago

3793
02:37:25,030 --> 02:37:22,720
i thought it was uh two billion or when

3794
02:37:27,910 --> 02:37:25,040
they were destroyed no 16 when they were

3795
02:37:29,270 --> 02:37:27,920
destroyed 65 million

3796
02:37:31,030 --> 02:37:29,280
is is

3797
02:37:33,670 --> 02:37:31,040
yeah they

3798
02:37:36,309 --> 02:37:33,680
they uh lived like for uh

3799
02:37:38,230 --> 02:37:36,319
two billion years on the earth you know

3800
02:37:40,150 --> 02:37:38,240
okay something like that but you're

3801
02:37:44,389 --> 02:37:40,160
saying humans walked

3802
02:37:45,990 --> 02:37:44,399
dinosaurs neil

3803
02:37:49,030 --> 02:37:46,000
of course

3804
02:37:51,910 --> 02:37:49,040
and and we have evidence of uh some mud

3805
02:37:54,469 --> 02:37:51,920
of uh human feet uh you know when it

3806
02:37:57,110 --> 02:37:54,479
when the dinosaurs turned into stone

3807
02:38:00,630 --> 02:37:57,120
their tracks were turned into stone too

3808
02:38:02,550 --> 02:38:00,640
it it uh they have uh

3809
02:38:05,429 --> 02:38:02,560
stuff on the internet where you could

3810
02:38:07,670 --> 02:38:05,439
see a human being he's just turned into

3811
02:38:09,590 --> 02:38:07,680
stone you know you could see it you know

3812
02:38:10,469 --> 02:38:09,600
there's a lot of evidence out there you

3813
02:38:12,389 --> 02:38:10,479
know

3814
02:38:14,710 --> 02:38:12,399
okay and and why do you bring that up

3815
02:38:17,110 --> 02:38:14,720
though

3816
02:38:19,429 --> 02:38:17,120
well the thing is the people you know

3817
02:38:22,070 --> 02:38:19,439
y'all talk about history

3818
02:38:25,190 --> 02:38:22,080
uh of the human race y'all acting like

3819
02:38:28,950 --> 02:38:25,200
we're just uh 20 000 years old and it's

3820
02:38:31,190 --> 02:38:28,960
like golly man that's so crazy you know

3821
02:38:33,830 --> 02:38:31,200
and uh no one's talking about how old

3822
02:38:36,469 --> 02:38:33,840
the human race is we're billions of

3823
02:38:40,630 --> 02:38:36,479
years old you know you think you think

3824
02:38:43,750 --> 02:38:40,640
that humans are billions of years old

3825
02:38:44,870 --> 02:38:43,760
of course we used to build spaceships

3826
02:38:46,790 --> 02:38:44,880
okay

3827
02:38:47,830 --> 02:38:46,800
when the war happened this is i'm gonna

3828
02:38:49,830 --> 02:38:47,840
tell you what happened i know what

3829
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:49,840
happened when when you take over a

3830
02:38:54,870 --> 02:38:52,800
planet you make a slave planet you take

3831
02:38:56,389 --> 02:38:54,880
all technology you wipe all the

3832
02:38:57,349 --> 02:38:56,399
buildings out

3833
02:38:59,510 --> 02:38:57,359
uh

3834
02:39:01,190 --> 02:38:59,520
you take the the fathers that knew the

3835
02:39:03,270 --> 02:39:01,200
knowledge and you you had let them have

3836
02:39:06,790 --> 02:39:03,280
babies and didn't let the babies live on

3837
02:39:09,349 --> 02:39:06,800
earth right okay you make them slaves

3838
02:39:11,190 --> 02:39:09,359
on the slave planet okay you see what

3839
02:39:12,630 --> 02:39:11,200
i'm saying and you start all over in the

3840
02:39:15,030 --> 02:39:12,640
stone age

3841
02:39:17,190 --> 02:39:15,040
i'm listening see what i'm saying this

3842
02:39:18,950 --> 02:39:17,200
this this really happened

3843
02:39:21,510 --> 02:39:18,960
the thing is

3844
02:39:23,510 --> 02:39:21,520
neil hold on let me jump in i i need to

3845
02:39:26,150 --> 02:39:23,520
keep you focused here neil let me let me

3846
02:39:31,030 --> 02:39:26,160
help you for a second you said when the

3847
02:39:35,990 --> 02:39:33,110
the last one

3848
02:39:40,469 --> 02:39:36,000
what do you mean the last war

3849
02:39:43,030 --> 02:39:40,479
okay millions of years ago or

3850
02:39:44,469 --> 02:39:43,040
or crimea

3851
02:39:47,270 --> 02:39:44,479
okay um

3852
02:39:50,070 --> 02:39:47,280
in the book of job it says when he

3853
02:39:54,550 --> 02:39:50,080
wrestled with the angel he said the

3854
02:39:58,230 --> 02:39:54,560
prince has prevailed over god and men

3855
02:40:00,870 --> 02:39:58,240
okay prevailed means he conquered us

3856
02:40:03,270 --> 02:40:00,880
another thing is you got enoch that

3857
02:40:04,630 --> 02:40:03,280
these angels take him to heaven and

3858
02:40:06,230 --> 02:40:04,640
shows that

3859
02:40:09,030 --> 02:40:06,240
trump you know the second and third

3860
02:40:12,230 --> 02:40:09,040
heaven has uh trouble makers and evil

3861
02:40:16,630 --> 02:40:15,270
i'm listening keep going

3862
02:40:19,030 --> 02:40:16,640
and then uh

3863
02:40:21,349 --> 02:40:19,040
paul talked about there's uh powers and

3864
02:40:23,110 --> 02:40:21,359
principalities we don't uh fight against

3865
02:40:23,990 --> 02:40:23,120
blood and uh you know whatever you're

3866
02:40:25,830 --> 02:40:24,000
saying

3867
02:40:28,630 --> 02:40:25,840
uh but we fight against powers and

3868
02:40:30,870 --> 02:40:28,640
principalities in high places so that's

3869
02:40:31,910 --> 02:40:30,880
three different things that's talking

3870
02:40:34,070 --> 02:40:31,920
about

3871
02:40:36,950 --> 02:40:34,080
we're in a battle now we've been in the

3872
02:40:38,950 --> 02:40:36,960
battle for a long time

3873
02:40:42,070 --> 02:40:38,960
so who do you think's gonna win

3874
02:40:43,670 --> 02:40:42,080
who do you think is gonna win

3875
02:40:45,750 --> 02:40:43,680
well we need help from the other

3876
02:40:47,110 --> 02:40:45,760
universe people

3877
02:40:50,230 --> 02:40:47,120
uh

3878
02:40:52,550 --> 02:40:50,240
the dracos

3879
02:40:54,469 --> 02:40:52,560
uh let's see who else the reptilian

3880
02:40:56,070 --> 02:40:54,479
greys and stuff like that i actually

3881
02:40:56,870 --> 02:40:56,080
found a place

3882
02:40:58,710 --> 02:40:56,880
uh

3883
02:41:01,190 --> 02:40:58,720
i told you that before where there's two

3884
02:41:03,510 --> 02:41:01,200
alien species i took a photograph i

3885
02:41:05,750 --> 02:41:03,520
found a photograph of one of them

3886
02:41:07,590 --> 02:41:05,760
he looked like an alien gray

3887
02:41:09,750 --> 02:41:07,600
but they got a dude that's dressed up

3888
02:41:12,150 --> 02:41:09,760
like a jedi

3889
02:41:15,030 --> 02:41:12,160
you know like on star wars and it's

3890
02:41:17,429 --> 02:41:15,040
carved in a mountain in california

3891
02:41:19,750 --> 02:41:17,439
uh and it's got two different alien

3892
02:41:23,270 --> 02:41:19,760
species now you can see these things

3893
02:41:25,349 --> 02:41:23,280
this uh stuff from uh five miles away

3894
02:41:26,870 --> 02:41:25,359
that's how big it is

3895
02:41:29,990 --> 02:41:26,880
the carving

3896
02:41:33,510 --> 02:41:30,000
you know of ancient alien and humans i

3897
02:41:35,510 --> 02:41:33,520
want to see a picture of this

3898
02:41:37,349 --> 02:41:35,520
the thing is if we take a picture i

3899
02:41:41,830 --> 02:41:37,359
gotta have a witness

3900
02:41:43,830 --> 02:41:41,840
and we can't tell nobody where it's at

3901
02:41:45,670 --> 02:41:43,840
you see what i'm saying can you go there

3902
02:41:48,070 --> 02:41:45,680
by yourself or do you need somebody to

3903
02:41:49,910 --> 02:41:48,080
go with you

3904
02:41:52,070 --> 02:41:49,920
well i need someone to go with me where

3905
02:41:54,950 --> 02:41:52,080
it could take some good photographs and

3906
02:41:56,389 --> 02:41:54,960
uh the thing is no sedona if you get on

3907
02:41:58,469 --> 02:41:56,399
top of the airport and you look at the

3908
02:42:00,389 --> 02:41:58,479
big mountain they got a big carving of a

3909
02:42:02,630 --> 02:42:00,399
lion's face

3910
02:42:05,590 --> 02:42:02,640
in sedona and then they had another

3911
02:42:07,910 --> 02:42:05,600
carving of american in the end

3912
02:42:09,670 --> 02:42:07,920
hit the right side of his nose

3913
02:42:14,230 --> 02:42:09,680
the right side of his face and on the

3914
02:42:17,830 --> 02:42:14,240
left side of his face was a uh owl

3915
02:42:19,960 --> 02:42:18,870
yeah

3916
02:42:21,990 --> 02:42:19,970
have you seen it

3917
02:42:26,150 --> 02:42:22,000
[Applause]

3918
02:42:29,429 --> 02:42:26,160
have you have you seen it yourself

3919
02:42:31,590 --> 02:42:29,439
i had 10 people on top of the airport

3920
02:42:33,590 --> 02:42:31,600
you know every time i do my research and

3921
02:42:36,150 --> 02:42:33,600
i see something i make sure there's got

3922
02:42:37,670 --> 02:42:36,160
at least 10 of us you know right yeah

3923
02:42:42,870 --> 02:42:37,680
and

3924
02:42:45,510 --> 02:42:42,880
i was waiting for her to find it you

3925
02:42:47,349 --> 02:42:45,520
know it's like you know um we all was

3926
02:42:48,710 --> 02:42:47,359
all waiting everybody was waiting for

3927
02:42:50,230 --> 02:42:48,720
her to see it

3928
02:42:52,469 --> 02:42:50,240
and uh

3929
02:42:55,990 --> 02:42:52,479
she's freaked out oh my god it's that

3930
02:42:58,309 --> 02:42:56,000
big she was looking for something small

3931
02:43:00,389 --> 02:42:58,319
it was it was gigantic it's the whole

3932
02:43:01,429 --> 02:43:00,399
daggone mountain that's carved out of

3933
02:43:02,550 --> 02:43:01,439
this thing

3934
02:43:04,309 --> 02:43:02,560
but you know

3935
02:43:08,150 --> 02:43:04,319
and then north

3936
02:43:10,230 --> 02:43:08,160
of sedona i found a carving of a giant

3937
02:43:12,870 --> 02:43:10,240
uh

3938
02:43:15,830 --> 02:43:12,880
in one mountain it looked like zeus with

3939
02:43:18,469 --> 02:43:15,840
long curly hair and long curly beard and

3940
02:43:21,030 --> 02:43:18,479
had a little alien j-rod like

3941
02:43:23,590 --> 02:43:21,040
conehead alien right next to him on his

3942
02:43:26,150 --> 02:43:23,600
left side now

3943
02:43:29,830 --> 02:43:26,160
leo let me ask you something i'd

3944
02:43:31,510 --> 02:43:29,840
are you suggesting that these

3945
02:43:34,070 --> 02:43:31,520
were carved

3946
02:43:37,110 --> 02:43:34,080
are they just natural and you're just

3947
02:43:39,190 --> 02:43:37,120
you know it just looks like zeus or

3948
02:43:40,950 --> 02:43:39,200
it looks like a jedi

3949
02:43:42,950 --> 02:43:40,960
or or whatever

3950
02:43:45,349 --> 02:43:42,960
that you're just

3951
02:43:48,309 --> 02:43:45,359
the ones i was talking about was looks

3952
02:43:51,030 --> 02:43:48,319
like carvings but i got more evidence of

3953
02:43:53,670 --> 02:43:51,040
something else where around the dinosaur

3954
02:43:55,429 --> 02:43:53,680
feet you know where in northern arizona

3955
02:43:57,349 --> 02:43:55,439
in the mud turned into stone and the

3956
02:44:00,710 --> 02:43:57,359
dinosaur is laying there you can see the

3957
02:44:02,950 --> 02:44:00,720
dinosaur half of it's cast in stone in

3958
02:44:05,190 --> 02:44:02,960
the other half you can see its bones

3959
02:44:06,950 --> 02:44:05,200
well the feces were turned into stone

3960
02:44:09,590 --> 02:44:06,960
and then you got the petrified forest

3961
02:44:12,230 --> 02:44:09,600
that was turning the stone right nearby

3962
02:44:14,150 --> 02:44:12,240
so when the meteorite hit it turned

3963
02:44:17,269 --> 02:44:14,160
everything in the stone and verb you

3964
02:44:19,510 --> 02:44:17,279
know vaporized whatever was around right

3965
02:44:21,750 --> 02:44:19,520
well but what i'm trying to understand

3966
02:44:24,309 --> 02:44:21,760
here neil because i think this is really

3967
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:24,319
cool but what i'm trying to understand

3968
02:44:30,870 --> 02:44:27,600
is you're saying that there is something

3969
02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:30,880
here in california you've seen it that

3970
02:44:37,670 --> 02:44:34,720
has carved that is representing e.t

3971
02:44:39,030 --> 02:44:37,680
right and it's there two

3972
02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:39,040
to eight

3973
02:44:44,950 --> 02:44:40,000
two

3974
02:44:47,510 --> 02:44:44,960
right i'm looking at the white uh

3975
02:44:50,630 --> 02:44:47,520
caucasian guy he looked like a jedi like

3976
02:44:53,750 --> 02:44:50,640
on star wars i see him first then i see

3977
02:44:55,429 --> 02:44:53,760
the other alien he's behind him now the

3978
02:44:58,790 --> 02:44:55,439
alien that's behind him is the good

3979
02:45:01,750 --> 02:44:58,800
alien because he's looking at the one

3980
02:45:04,070 --> 02:45:01,760
at the right of the mountain of the jedi

3981
02:45:06,550 --> 02:45:04,080
dude he's looking at him like hey i got

3982
02:45:07,990 --> 02:45:06,560
my eyes on you like you're evil well

3983
02:45:11,110 --> 02:45:08,000
that that uh

3984
02:45:12,550 --> 02:45:11,120
that photograph i sent you i think

3985
02:45:15,030 --> 02:45:12,560
yeah yeah

3986
02:45:17,910 --> 02:45:15,040
it's uh the evil one his eyes are like

3987
02:45:20,469 --> 02:45:17,920
slanted and looks like a reptilian gray

3988
02:45:22,550 --> 02:45:20,479
you sent me that's the evil one i think

3989
02:45:23,670 --> 02:45:22,560
you sent me a picture of you draco i

3990
02:45:26,830 --> 02:45:23,680
don't know

3991
02:45:30,150 --> 02:45:26,840
you sent me a picture of

3992
02:45:32,389 --> 02:45:30,160
it i'd remember it

3993
02:45:33,190 --> 02:45:32,399
oh yeah i sent it on a group thing the

3994
02:45:37,110 --> 02:45:33,200
uh

3995
02:45:38,070 --> 02:45:37,120
i tried to do messenger i think or

3996
02:45:42,790 --> 02:45:38,080
something

3997
02:45:44,710 --> 02:45:42,800
but i did it in the group i wrote a

3998
02:45:48,790 --> 02:45:44,720
story about it like i'm talking to you

3999
02:45:50,790 --> 02:45:48,800
right now okay okay so okay but this is

4000
02:45:51,670 --> 02:45:50,800
this is where i'm uh going with this

4001
02:45:53,510 --> 02:45:51,680
neil

4002
02:45:55,510 --> 02:45:53,520
what you are saying is there is

4003
02:45:56,950 --> 02:45:55,520
something that was carved here in

4004
02:45:58,150 --> 02:45:56,960
california

4005
02:46:01,590 --> 02:45:58,160
right

4006
02:46:03,110 --> 02:46:01,600
yeah okay it's got a jedi and and a

4007
02:46:04,550 --> 02:46:03,120
little alien guy in the background

4008
02:46:05,349 --> 02:46:04,560
they're looking at each other now you're

4009
02:46:08,550 --> 02:46:05,359
saying

4010
02:46:11,750 --> 02:46:08,560
and that that was carved that that isn't

4011
02:46:13,750 --> 02:46:11,760
some natural erosion in rock you're

4012
02:46:16,469 --> 02:46:13,760
saying that that was carved and then

4013
02:46:18,870 --> 02:46:17,349
right

4014
02:46:20,469 --> 02:46:18,880
that's what you're saying

4015
02:46:22,150 --> 02:46:20,479
when you look at it it's going to blow

4016
02:46:23,750 --> 02:46:22,160
your mind man i'm telling you you know

4017
02:46:25,510 --> 02:46:23,760
the dude with the hood

4018
02:46:27,750 --> 02:46:25,520
you know he's got a hood on like the

4019
02:46:29,590 --> 02:46:27,760
jedi

4020
02:46:31,590 --> 02:46:29,600
it's kind of like that

4021
02:46:33,830 --> 02:46:31,600
yeah are you talking thing is i told

4022
02:46:35,429 --> 02:46:33,840
american indian i showed of like five

4023
02:46:38,230 --> 02:46:35,439
people about it and they all could see

4024
02:46:40,870 --> 02:46:38,240
it american uh indian that lives there

4025
02:46:43,750 --> 02:46:40,880
she said she knows about we knew about

4026
02:46:45,830 --> 02:46:43,760
that how big is it keeping that stuff

4027
02:46:48,309 --> 02:46:45,840
they keeping it sick oh man it's the

4028
02:46:52,150 --> 02:46:48,319
whole mountain

4029
02:46:55,750 --> 02:46:52,160
i mean a football field long i guess wow

4030
02:46:57,830 --> 02:46:55,760
wow but it was carved it's not

4031
02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:57,840
neil i want to understand you're saying

4032
02:47:01,349 --> 02:46:59,840
that it was carved

4033
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:01,359
and not

4034
02:47:08,710 --> 02:47:07,030
no yeah

4035
02:47:10,790 --> 02:47:08,720
it's kind of like they did it with a

4036
02:47:13,110 --> 02:47:10,800
laser like you see on them computer

4037
02:47:15,590 --> 02:47:13,120
laser things you know okay okay i was

4038
02:47:17,670 --> 02:47:15,600
like golly how how can they carve

4039
02:47:22,950 --> 02:47:17,680
something like that

4040
02:47:26,269 --> 02:47:24,870
it's in these big mountains it's on

4041
02:47:29,670 --> 02:47:26,279
highway uh

4042
02:47:31,750 --> 02:47:29,680
395. i just don't want to tell nobody

4043
02:47:33,830 --> 02:47:31,760
because see

4044
02:47:35,910 --> 02:47:33,840
if i don't want a lot of people going

4045
02:47:38,389 --> 02:47:35,920
over there because the problem is they

4046
02:47:41,269 --> 02:47:38,399
they might have tunnels or some uh

4047
02:47:43,910 --> 02:47:41,279
passageways or some other stuff if you

4048
02:47:46,230 --> 02:47:43,920
film around that one area there's no

4049
02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:46,240
telling what else you might see

4050
02:47:49,830 --> 02:47:46,960
too

4051
02:47:51,750 --> 02:47:49,840
but i i need to disclose this

4052
02:47:53,910 --> 02:47:51,760
because this is proving

4053
02:47:56,230 --> 02:47:53,920
uh especially in sedona you got this

4054
02:47:58,950 --> 02:47:56,240
dude with long hair and a beard is a

4055
02:48:03,429 --> 02:47:58,960
white caucasian male look like a greek

4056
02:48:05,910 --> 02:48:03,439
and he's got an alien right next to him

4057
02:48:07,190 --> 02:48:05,920
that proves that we used to live amongst

4058
02:48:09,110 --> 02:48:07,200
aliens

4059
02:48:10,150 --> 02:48:09,120
you know that's what i'm trying to tell

4060
02:48:13,590 --> 02:48:10,160
y'all

4061
02:48:17,510 --> 02:48:13,600
and and uh and this in sedona you can

4062
02:48:19,429 --> 02:48:17,520
see it from the sedona airport

4063
02:48:21,590 --> 02:48:19,439
no no that's the lion

4064
02:48:24,309 --> 02:48:21,600
that's the lion okay

4065
02:48:27,269 --> 02:48:24,319
where is that what i did was

4066
02:48:29,990 --> 02:48:27,279
i camped out north and then i went east

4067
02:48:32,150 --> 02:48:30,000
south west and i seen like these all

4068
02:48:33,110 --> 02:48:32,160
like temples over there and all kinds of

4069
02:48:34,469 --> 02:48:33,120
stuff

4070
02:48:43,030 --> 02:48:34,479
uh

4071
02:48:45,750 --> 02:48:43,040
it's got a lot of them secrets like the

4072
02:48:48,070 --> 02:48:45,760
lion the the man with the long beard you

4073
02:48:51,190 --> 02:48:48,080
know this is a white caucasian guy you

4074
02:48:53,910 --> 02:48:51,200
know in in america right and then the

4075
02:48:55,750 --> 02:48:53,920
jedi dude he looks like he's a walk he's

4076
02:48:57,030 --> 02:48:55,760
not indian you know you could tell by

4077
02:49:00,790 --> 02:48:57,040
looking at him

4078
02:49:02,070 --> 02:49:00,800
uh you know so we got the evidence

4079
02:49:03,830 --> 02:49:02,080
uh

4080
02:49:06,550 --> 02:49:03,840
i'm just tired of people saying that

4081
02:49:08,790 --> 02:49:06,560
we're like 20 000 years old you know i'm

4082
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:08,800
saying it's like

4083
02:49:12,790 --> 02:49:10,240
yeah

4084
02:49:14,710 --> 02:49:12,800
well thank you for the phone call neil

4085
02:49:18,309 --> 02:49:14,720
and uh be safe out there we'll see you

4086
02:49:22,950 --> 02:49:21,750
okay yeah thank you so much

4087
02:49:23,990 --> 02:49:22,960
the um

4088
02:49:28,309 --> 02:49:24,000
uh

4089
02:49:31,429 --> 02:49:28,319
the age of us

4090
02:49:33,030 --> 02:49:31,439
is but i'm looking here on twitter eric

4091
02:49:35,510 --> 02:49:33,040
just posted eric i need some

4092
02:49:37,110 --> 02:49:35,520
clarification here eric just posted a

4093
02:49:39,590 --> 02:49:37,120
picture uh

4094
02:49:40,790 --> 02:49:39,600
is this sedona

4095
02:49:41,750 --> 02:49:40,800
is this

4096
02:49:47,510 --> 02:49:41,760
what

4097
02:49:50,309 --> 02:49:47,520
at here you just said there is proof

4098
02:49:53,190 --> 02:49:50,319
and i'm trying i'm squinting my eyes man

4099
02:49:57,110 --> 02:49:53,200
i'm trying to see what what is going on

4100
02:49:58,469 --> 02:49:57,120
here so i don't see it eric uh uh

4101
02:50:03,510 --> 02:49:58,479
clarify

4102
02:50:08,469 --> 02:50:05,990
but okay so

4103
02:50:11,269 --> 02:50:08,479
i saw a video okay here we go here are

4104
02:50:12,950 --> 02:50:11,279
the gods and aliens

4105
02:50:17,110 --> 02:50:12,960
uh

4106
02:50:19,030 --> 02:50:17,120
okay i guess i kinda

4107
02:50:20,950 --> 02:50:19,040
you know you know see this is the thing

4108
02:50:24,070 --> 02:50:20,960
here we're gonna see whatever we wanna

4109
02:50:26,389 --> 02:50:24,080
see eric this is a beautiful picture of

4110
02:50:30,389 --> 02:50:26,399
of of a cliff

4111
02:50:31,429 --> 02:50:30,399
okay but oh there's the lion's head

4112
02:50:33,590 --> 02:50:31,439
okay

4113
02:50:34,710 --> 02:50:33,600
all right now i see it

4114
02:50:35,710 --> 02:50:34,720
ah that's

4115
02:50:41,670 --> 02:50:35,720
in

4116
02:50:44,070 --> 02:50:41,680
that looks more like the lion guy from

4117
02:50:47,590 --> 02:50:44,080
the wizard of oz than it does a lion's

4118
02:50:49,510 --> 02:50:47,600
head but i see what everybody's talking

4119
02:50:51,349 --> 02:50:49,520
about i guess

4120
02:50:52,550 --> 02:50:51,359
uh what neil is talking about that's

4121
02:50:53,830 --> 02:50:52,560
that's

4122
02:50:56,710 --> 02:50:53,840
uh

4123
02:50:58,070 --> 02:50:56,720
the airport mesa i i don't know

4124
02:51:00,389 --> 02:50:58,080
i don't know you guys listen to the

4125
02:51:03,830 --> 02:51:00,399
conversations just like i did but i see

4126
02:51:06,630 --> 02:51:03,840
the lion's head here i uh okay

4127
02:51:08,950 --> 02:51:06,640
all right but isn't that just

4128
02:51:11,590 --> 02:51:08,960
you know i watched

4129
02:51:13,389 --> 02:51:11,600
this is like 10 years ago

4130
02:51:16,950 --> 02:51:13,399
i watched a

4131
02:51:18,950 --> 02:51:16,960
three-hour documentary about the valley

4132
02:51:21,030 --> 02:51:18,960
with all of the uh

4133
02:51:23,190 --> 02:51:21,040
uh all of the animals that are carved

4134
02:51:24,790 --> 02:51:23,200
into the valley i it doesn't even matter

4135
02:51:27,590 --> 02:51:24,800
i can't remember the country it was a

4136
02:51:30,830 --> 02:51:27,600
peru or argentina or something

4137
02:51:32,870 --> 02:51:30,840
and i watched that for three

4138
02:51:34,630 --> 02:51:32,880
hours and

4139
02:51:37,750 --> 02:51:34,640
i'm sorry

4140
02:51:41,750 --> 02:51:37,760
there wasn't one instance

4141
02:51:44,309 --> 02:51:41,760
of anything man-made or carved i didn't

4142
02:51:46,309 --> 02:51:44,319
get it out of it and i understand the

4143
02:51:48,070 --> 02:51:46,319
researcher going there for years and

4144
02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:48,080
filming these different videos and

4145
02:51:52,630 --> 02:51:50,479
angles and photographs and looking at

4146
02:51:54,550 --> 02:51:52,640
past researchers and stuff i i just

4147
02:51:55,750 --> 02:51:54,560
didn't see it man

4148
02:51:57,910 --> 02:51:55,760
i really

4149
02:52:00,550 --> 02:51:57,920
yeah lion's head

4150
02:52:03,750 --> 02:52:00,560
but i i didn't see any of it

4151
02:52:06,389 --> 02:52:03,760
and i'm talking about um

4152
02:52:08,790 --> 02:52:06,399
certainly this filmmaker an entire

4153
02:52:09,590 --> 02:52:08,800
lifetime of research and documenting

4154
02:52:12,469 --> 02:52:09,600
this

4155
02:52:15,429 --> 02:52:12,479
and and trying to

4156
02:52:17,269 --> 02:52:15,439
convince us of what they were seeing

4157
02:52:19,670 --> 02:52:17,279
i didn't see it

4158
02:52:22,309 --> 02:52:19,680
and it got for me

4159
02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:22,319
i got a little sad and also was a little

4160
02:52:26,830 --> 02:52:25,359
painful to continue watching it

4161
02:52:30,070 --> 02:52:26,840
where if

4162
02:52:32,389 --> 02:52:30,080
you any one of these angles where you

4163
02:52:34,150 --> 02:52:32,399
can kind of see

4164
02:52:36,630 --> 02:52:34,160
and you kind of give in you go okay all

4165
02:52:38,950 --> 02:52:36,640
right i see the nose i see the the ridge

4166
02:52:41,030 --> 02:52:38,960
of the eyes okay i can see the lips i

4167
02:52:44,469 --> 02:52:41,040
can see the chin and then you go to

4168
02:52:46,550 --> 02:52:44,479
another angle and it's clearly not that

4169
02:52:48,469 --> 02:52:46,560
you know it's just one angle and one

4170
02:52:49,910 --> 02:52:48,479
profile shot that doesn't mean that it

4171
02:52:51,190 --> 02:52:49,920
was carved

4172
02:52:54,469 --> 02:52:51,200
you know that this is some

4173
02:52:58,550 --> 02:52:54,479
representation of uh you know a

4174
02:53:00,550 --> 02:52:58,560
a million year old uh uh civilization

4175
02:53:03,750 --> 02:53:00,560
that was carving these into these these

4176
02:53:05,830 --> 02:53:03,760
rocks in this valley i just don't see it

4177
02:53:06,340 --> 02:53:05,840
you know and and i

4178
02:53:08,790 --> 02:53:06,350
i

4179
02:53:10,790 --> 02:53:08,800
[Laughter]

4180
02:53:13,190 --> 02:53:10,800
just let me be straight

4181
02:53:14,630 --> 02:53:13,200
i know that there's something going on i

4182
02:53:17,910 --> 02:53:14,640
know that there's something strange

4183
02:53:19,429 --> 02:53:17,920
happening i've had my experiences i know

4184
02:53:21,030 --> 02:53:19,439
that they're you know that we're not

4185
02:53:23,349 --> 02:53:21,040
being told the truth and i know that

4186
02:53:25,190 --> 02:53:23,359
there's just a conspiracy of things i'm

4187
02:53:27,190 --> 02:53:25,200
trying to get to the bottom of it but

4188
02:53:29,030 --> 02:53:27,200
then there's the other part of me where

4189
02:53:31,269 --> 02:53:29,040
you know what even

4190
02:53:33,429 --> 02:53:31,279
even i have to draw the line and back up

4191
02:53:34,309 --> 02:53:33,439
and go man i just i just don't see it

4192
02:53:36,469 --> 02:53:34,319
here

4193
02:53:38,950 --> 02:53:36,479
you know i just don't aliens are

4194
02:53:40,550 --> 02:53:38,960
everywhere okay look

4195
02:53:42,550 --> 02:53:40,560
eric

4196
02:53:45,190 --> 02:53:42,560
i'm looking at this picture

4197
02:53:47,910 --> 02:53:45,200
i don't know i

4198
02:53:49,510 --> 02:53:47,920
i don't see anything here

4199
02:53:52,389 --> 02:53:49,520
but this is this is what's really

4200
02:53:54,790 --> 02:53:52,399
strange when we were up at east ceti

4201
02:53:56,630 --> 02:53:54,800
and we were you know we had that strange

4202
02:53:58,950 --> 02:53:56,640
door thing that opened up on the top of

4203
02:54:00,469 --> 02:53:58,960
the mountain well facing the door on the

4204
02:54:01,990 --> 02:54:00,479
other side of the mountain

4205
02:54:05,110 --> 02:54:02,000
and i don't know if it was the angle

4206
02:54:06,389 --> 02:54:05,120
that we were at we're also 14 miles away

4207
02:54:08,710 --> 02:54:06,399
but

4208
02:54:10,070 --> 02:54:08,720
i saw like three or four faces that were

4209
02:54:11,990 --> 02:54:10,080
carved in the side of the mountain that

4210
02:54:13,670 --> 02:54:12,000
would look like they were looking at to

4211
02:54:15,990 --> 02:54:13,680
where the door was

4212
02:54:18,469 --> 02:54:16,000
and very intricate

4213
02:54:20,950 --> 02:54:18,479
very precise this isn't some case of

4214
02:54:23,510 --> 02:54:20,960
peridolia and you're just imagining

4215
02:54:25,429 --> 02:54:23,520
things no no not the case

4216
02:54:27,910 --> 02:54:25,439
uh but i'm looking at this picture here

4217
02:54:30,950 --> 02:54:27,920
that eric just posted and it's in

4218
02:54:32,710 --> 02:54:30,960
twitter it says aliens are everywhere

4219
02:55:05,349 --> 02:54:32,720
i

4220
02:55:09,750 --> 02:55:05,359
yeah

4221
02:55:11,590 --> 02:55:09,760
from another angle that's the thing from

4222
02:55:13,429 --> 02:55:11,600
this angle here i can see it all

4223
02:55:15,349 --> 02:55:13,439
whiskers i can see the eyes i can see

4224
02:55:17,670 --> 02:55:15,359
the nose i can see the mouth but he

4225
02:55:20,150 --> 02:55:17,680
looks like the cowardly lion though from

4226
02:55:22,710 --> 02:55:20,160
wizard of oz as opposed to

4227
02:55:24,389 --> 02:55:22,720
something a little bit more convincing

4228
02:55:25,830 --> 02:55:24,399
but okay

4229
02:55:26,870 --> 02:55:25,840
so there you go neil thank you for the

4230
02:55:30,469 --> 02:55:26,880
phone call

4231
02:55:32,309 --> 02:55:30,479
and one thing is for sure um i

4232
02:55:34,630 --> 02:55:32,319
i am convinced

4233
02:55:37,910 --> 02:55:34,640
now more than ever and especially after

4234
02:55:41,429 --> 02:55:37,920
nasa just released this asteroid crater

4235
02:55:44,230 --> 02:55:41,439
in greenland and slapped that 12 000

4236
02:55:47,030 --> 02:55:44,240
year old date on it

4237
02:55:49,030 --> 02:55:47,040
and it would have been wonderful if

4238
02:55:51,510 --> 02:55:49,040
graham hancock would have had this for

4239
02:55:53,910 --> 02:55:51,520
his latest book america before

4240
02:55:55,670 --> 02:55:53,920
but it's now it keeps pointing back

4241
02:55:58,469 --> 02:55:55,680
randall carlson

4242
02:56:00,150 --> 02:55:58,479
john anthony west robert shock robert

4243
02:56:01,990 --> 02:56:00,160
paval

4244
02:56:03,190 --> 02:56:02,000
graham hancock

4245
02:56:06,389 --> 02:56:03,200
and and

4246
02:56:07,990 --> 02:56:06,399
the celestial calendar and where o'ryan

4247
02:56:10,790 --> 02:56:08,000
was and leo

4248
02:56:12,870 --> 02:56:10,800
uh in giza that keeps pointing back to

4249
02:56:15,910 --> 02:56:12,880
the same date and then you throw gobekli

4250
02:56:18,710 --> 02:56:15,920
tepee in and there you go there's

4251
02:56:19,990 --> 02:56:18,720
something going on here and i i firmly

4252
02:56:21,750 --> 02:56:20,000
believe that there was an ancient

4253
02:56:26,230 --> 02:56:21,760
high-tech civilization

4254
02:56:28,550 --> 02:56:26,240
uh that was around uh a long time ago

4255
02:56:31,110 --> 02:56:28,560
that that faced some pretty

4256
02:56:33,670 --> 02:56:31,120
pretty intense challenges here

4257
02:56:35,910 --> 02:56:33,680
like this asteroid that's smacked into

4258
02:56:36,790 --> 02:56:35,920
greenland and could there have been

4259
02:56:39,429 --> 02:56:36,800
um

4260
02:56:41,349 --> 02:56:39,439
something else whether it's comets or or

4261
02:56:43,349 --> 02:56:41,359
asteroids or other things that hid here

4262
02:56:45,670 --> 02:56:43,359
in north america too as well

4263
02:56:49,030 --> 02:56:45,680
at quite possibly around the same time

4264
02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:49,040
and what would have led to gobekli tepe

4265
02:56:53,349 --> 02:56:52,000
being deliberately buried at around 11

4266
02:56:55,830 --> 02:56:53,359
000 bc

4267
02:56:58,710 --> 02:56:55,840
all of this points to the same thing so

4268
02:57:00,469 --> 02:56:58,720
we we've we've got answers uh we've got

4269
02:57:01,510 --> 02:57:00,479
answers to these questions and they're

4270
02:57:02,630 --> 02:57:01,520
they're right here they're right in

4271
02:57:05,830 --> 02:57:02,640
front of us it's one of the most

4272
02:57:07,910 --> 02:57:05,840
fascinating times to be around and with

4273
02:57:10,389 --> 02:57:07,920
that tomorrow night right here scott

4274
02:57:12,230 --> 02:57:10,399
walter is is going to be here uh we're

4275
02:57:15,590 --> 02:57:12,240
going to talk about

4276
02:57:17,190 --> 02:57:15,600
the uh the lost diaries and journals of

4277
02:57:20,230 --> 02:57:17,200
sinclair

4278
02:57:22,870 --> 02:57:20,240
and we're going into heavy templar

4279
02:57:24,550 --> 02:57:22,880
history tomorrow night scott walter is

4280
02:57:25,429 --> 02:57:24,560
one of the best i can't wait for him to

4281
02:57:29,269 --> 02:57:25,439
be here

4282
02:57:30,710 --> 02:57:29,279
uh for an excellent uh uh warm up to the

4283
02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:30,720
show tomorrow night

4284
02:57:37,110 --> 02:57:34,800
go to scott walters blog spot or blog

4285
02:57:39,190 --> 02:57:37,120
and uh check it out right there because

4286
02:57:41,830 --> 02:57:39,200
there are two recent articles that he

4287
02:57:44,550 --> 02:57:41,840
has posted that we will be using for

4288
02:57:46,870 --> 02:57:44,560
reference tomorrow night on the show

4289
02:57:48,790 --> 02:57:46,880
with that i am going to get out of here

4290
02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:48,800
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